One Synth Challenge #72: Eclipsis by VSTZONE (Richard Semper Wins!)

[sfiks]

Uploaded bank and 34 presets from it (whatever you need if any )
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/eclipsi ... /downloads

[doctorbob]

Mojo42: I have no musical education and I don't even know musical notes. Also I don't play on any instruments. But even without knowledge I know my composition are too simple and pathetic

Excellent! That means you're taking baby steps towards that awesome composition A lot of peeps here have not had musical education.

Yeah, little steps and you'll get there. I too have had little music tuition - some piano lessons on Saturday mornings for a while in 1960. Mind you, my music "education" has moved forward with help from the good folk lurking around here.

dB

[fese]

Damn, this is really frustrating... Every so often this VSTi shuts down and the sound stops. Sometimes when editing, sometimes just while playback, but not with all patches. Only thing that helps is completely reloading the instrument and loading the patch again. Cannot reproduce it on purpose.
Anyone else having these problems? I am on Cubase 6.5.4, 32bit.

At the moment i cannot see finishing anything this month with this synth... which would be too bad because I really like my new song idea.

OHHH and did you check your RAM? Maybe it went over?

Nah... But somehow it behave better now, it seems to be some problem with a specific patch, recreated that in another instance and then everything was OK after that, no more problems.

BTW, is there any way to use CC like modwheel with this synth? I cannot find anything.
Also i am missing some kind of manual. Now usually my motto is "real men don't read manuals" and I am all for trial and error, but this is a very strange beast and I would for example really like to know what the exact difference between "pitch" and "frequency" in the dropdowns is. Anyone can help?

[wagtunes]

Damn, this is really frustrating... Every so often this VSTi shuts down and the sound stops. Sometimes when editing, sometimes just while playback, but not with all patches. Only thing that helps is completely reloading the instrument and loading the patch again. Cannot reproduce it on purpose.
Anyone else having these problems? I am on Cubase 6.5.4, 32bit.

At the moment i cannot see finishing anything this month with this synth... which would be too bad because I really like my new song idea.

OHHH and did you check your RAM? Maybe it went over?

Nah... But somehow it behave better now, it seems to be some problem with a specific patch, recreated that in another instance and then everything was OK after that, no more problems.

BTW, is there any way to use CC like modwheel with this synth? I cannot find anything.
Also i am missing some kind of manual. Now usually my motto is "real men don't read manuals" and I am all for trial and error, but this is a very strange beast and I would for example really like to know what the exact difference between "pitch" and "frequency" in the dropdowns is. Anyone can help?

There is no way to use mod wheel as a modulator, which is my biggest complaint with this synth.

[Mojo42]

Mojo42: I have no musical education and I don't even know musical notes. Also I don't play on any instruments. But even without knowledge I know my composition are too simple and pathetic

Excellent! That means you're taking baby steps towards that awesome composition A lot of peeps here have not had musical education.

Yeah, little steps and you'll get there. I too have had little music tuition - some piano lessons on Saturday mornings for a while in 1960. Mind you, my music "education" has moved forward with help from the good folk lurking around here.

dB

I`m a musician since I`m 15 years old and I made music almost my whole life. Now I`m 44 years old and I still can`t read notes. At least not really. I actually never needed notes for the music I played. Not for Rock, Blues, Folk, Punk, Deathmetal ( ), Funk. Now I try to produce Psychill and Psybient and I still don`t need notes. But it`s good to know that I could print them with Cubase
I mean: Just for the case that an Orchestra wishes to play my Psybient Grooves someday...who knows

[Mojo42]

Uploaded bank and 34 presets from it (whatever you need if any )
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/eclipsi ... /downloads

Thank you Makes our nice collection here more complete

[sfiks]

I would for example really like to know what the exact difference between "pitch" and "frequency" in the dropdowns is. Anyone can help?

Here is a preset with Noise driven by Velocity.
If you hit the key harder, Square modulation becomes faster.
Since velocity can vary from 1 to 127, you need a higher Octave.
In this case Octave = 4

Noise driven by velocity.PNG

Here is a preset with Noise driven by Pitch.
If you go from playing a note in a low register to playing a note in a higher register, Square modulation becomes faster.
Since pitch can vary from 1 to 16000 (or even higher), you need a lower Octave. In this case Octave = -3

Noise driven by pitch.PNG

Octave, I guess, is a multiplier.
Frequency, from my experience, works better with non-noise timbres.

Hope it helps.
Sorry if it's obvious

[Mojo42]

Hey guys, new to OSC and KVR.
I just found out about OSC last month and thought it was an awesome idea. I'm normally super shy, hardly ever post on forums, don't put my music online or anything,

Welcome to the club!

but this all seems like too much fun to pass on,

That`s what trapped me too.

so I think it's time to start being a part of things

Good idea

I actually wish I found out about it sooner, I missed so many good ones.

I was a bit intimidated by it all last month so I didn't join in. But at the beginning of this month I learned about a cool looking synth called Eclipsis and downloaded it. Next I checked the OSC page to see what this month's synth was... well how's that for coincidence?
So that's probably like the internet telling me to give it a shot or something.

So here I am.

We are all slaves of our fate

Welcome and enjoy

[Touch The Universe]

quick question, how do I make this polyphonic? nm, got it Very neat synth, shame I won't have too much time this month, maybe I can whip something up in a few hours.

[bibz1st]

BTW, is there any way to use CC like modwheel with this synth? I cannot find anything.

I think its possible to use mod wheel if your DAW is MULAB but dont know about other DAWS.

[Mojo42]

Seems that I`m also at an end now 10 Instances and now Cubase only stutters, although I just used one single effect until now: Reverb on the snare drum. CPU usage is almost of it`s maximum now and that means: Bye bye to lovely Arps made by Richard Semper, because it works not anymore.

Song is more than half finished, I planned at least 15 instances, but probably more and now I only have got one single chance: Changing my concept completely, so that I can make a song with only 9 instances. Until there all was fine. I have to play a piano melody now or something like that

Oh sh*t!!!

Okay, I don`t give up, but I have to change my plans completely. I will try to make a very, very little song with only 9 instances, no lovely Arps made by Richard Semper( ) no Drums by Photonic ( ), no psychedelic grooves ( ) just harmless pads and melody. That should work I hope. At least an opportunity to make something different than usually. Cross your fingers for me.

[crimsonwarlock]

Seems that I`m also at an end now 10 Instances and now Cubase only stutters, although I just used one single effect until now: Reverb on the snare drum. CPU usage is almost of it`s maximum now and that means: Bye bye to lovely Arps made by Richard Semper, because it works not anymore.

Song is more than half finished, I planned at least 15 instances, but probably more and now I only have got one single chance: Changing my concept completely, so that I can make a song with only 9 instances. Until there all was fine. I have to play a piano melody now or something like that

You should be able to 'freeze' tracks in Cubase and by doing so free up CPU for more instances

[RichardSemper]

Seems that I`m also at an end now 10 Instances and now Cubase only stutters, although I just used one single effect until now: Reverb on the snare drum. CPU usage is almost of it`s maximum now and that means: Bye bye to lovely Arps made by Richard Semper, because it works not anymore.

Song is more than half finished, I planned at least 15 instances, but probably more and now I only have got one single chance: Changing my concept completely, so that I can make a song with only 9 instances. Until there all was fine. I have to play a piano melody now or something like that

Oh sh*t!!!

Okay, I don`t give up, but I have to change my plans completely. I will try to make a very, very little song with only 9 instances, no lovely Arps made by Richard Semper( ) no Drums by Photonic ( ), no psychedelic grooves ( ) just harmless pads and melody. That should work I hope. At least an opportunity to make something different than usually. Cross your fingers for me.

I think some patches are more power hungry than others - and those ARPS...
However, you can 'freeze' individual tracks to save power, or bounce/export groups of tracks to audio to give you some power back - i've had to do this

[Mojo42]

@Crimsonwarlock: Do you mean with "freeze" to mute the instances? That would be actually an idea. I did this already at my last track. Up from instance 20 I also had this stutter problem, but because I muted all instances I didn`t need desperately for composing (or because all was completely finished there) I actually could add 4 instances more. But how far can I go this way with Eclipsis? Will it be enough for to end my song? That`s kind of risky. I could try but keep in mind that I`m originally at the limit already and so I have to shorten all a bit and being a bit more economically. Hm this is a nice thrill this challenge here

@RichardSemper: Yep exactly YOUR Arps are the problem But I want them so desperately for my track, that I probably will have to go through hell for it. Export some groups to audio was also an idea I had, but to be honest: This is all still in a state of flux. I still change here and there something and so this possibility is probably the last resort for later stages, when I decided which parts definitely shall stay the way as they are then.

Thank you guys for your advice Maybe I should try to make 2 songs. One contest track and one very short and simple one as an insurance for the case that the contest track fails. Wow what stress here......

[RichardSemper]

@Crimsonwarlock: Do you mean with "freeze" to mute the instances?

In cubase there is an option in the inspector to 'freeze' the track - the icon looks like a snowflake. What it does is creates an audio file in the background and disables the instrument from further editing (until you use the same icon to 'un-freeze') So you can still hear the sounds on playback, and you can still edit things like volume and eq etc.