Wanna make a good Housebeat!
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- KVRer
- 21 posts since 24 Mar, 2004 from Germany
So, in a housebeat, you take a 4/4 basedrum. between them you set a hihat. and then, on every second basedrum, you set a... clap? or a snaredrum? i tried it with a clap but that listens bad. and a analouge snaredrum? or do i just need the noise from the snaredrum? please help me! what should i put over every second basedrum in a housebeat. and i got the RMIV, you can explain it with that vst-instrument.
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
a snare and a clap might do it 
If you want to buy something, try future sound of house, nu directions. You get a lot of good samples and some very nice loops (percussionloops, shakerloops, noBD-loops and of course full loops + some instrumental .. bass, pads, electric pianos, lots of goodies).
If you do buy that i can give you my RMIV patch for them. I use two RMIV for that.
To understand a houseloop, a way is to split a loop you like up with a beatslicer. There youll see the swing of the drums and you'll find it easeier to see those sounds that you dont think of when you hear it (i mean, there is more than a bassdrum, hihat and a snare/clap in a housebeat)
Try using both a clap (discostyle!) and a snaredrum (a very compressed one with a little cutoff perhaps .. 909?). Then play with the velocity/volume of the snare/clap and adjust them a few tics to the left and right to make it sound 'fuller'.
Oh! Try a lot of compression over the result. Have some reverb on the clap too!
Hope something helped
sir crackbabe
If you want to buy something, try future sound of house, nu directions. You get a lot of good samples and some very nice loops (percussionloops, shakerloops, noBD-loops and of course full loops + some instrumental .. bass, pads, electric pianos, lots of goodies).
If you do buy that i can give you my RMIV patch for them. I use two RMIV for that.
To understand a houseloop, a way is to split a loop you like up with a beatslicer. There youll see the swing of the drums and you'll find it easeier to see those sounds that you dont think of when you hear it (i mean, there is more than a bassdrum, hihat and a snare/clap in a housebeat
)Try using both a clap (discostyle!
) and a snaredrum (a very compressed one with a little cutoff perhaps .. 909?). Then play with the velocity/volume of the snare/clap and adjust them a few tics to the left and right to make it sound 'fuller'.Oh! Try a lot of compression over the result. Have some reverb on the clap too!
Hope something helped
sir crackbabe
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
Boom chick bap chick boom chick bap chick.
Add toppings of your choice.
Add toppings of your choice.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 24 Mar, 2004 from Germany
i know, and im searching for the bap! i tried the noise from a snare, it listens better then the clap but still too "weak". in my favorit house beats the bap listens like a "punch" or something. how can i make this "punching" sound over the second snaredrum?
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
(moved from the cafe to everything else)
slainte rob
slainte
rob-
- addled muppet weed
- 111288 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
pHz wrote:(moved from the cafe to everything else)
slainte
and i thought you actually had some info on house beats
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
i have ...
boom-tish-boom-tish
or alternatively ...
oonts-onnts-oonts-oonts (but thats more techno i guess)
slainte
rob
boom-tish-boom-tish
or alternatively ...
oonts-onnts-oonts-oonts (but thats more techno i guess)
slainte
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 24 Mar, 2004 from Germany
then, anyone else? wait i got anotherone:
umsch tsch kch tsch umsch tsch kch tsch.
and for real. please some seriorous ones!
umsch tsch kch tsch umsch tsch kch tsch.
and for real. please some seriorous ones!
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- KVRAF
- 2973 posts since 10 Sep, 2003 from Karlskoga, Stockholm, Sweden
I like that one!Keule wrote: umsch tsch kch tsch umsch tsch kch tsch.
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
Music with dinner is an insult both to the cook and the violinist.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 24 Mar, 2004 from Germany
griels, du bist doch nen deutscher oder? hasst du auch was ernstes, also ne wirkliche idee? komm, unter uns deutschen!
and for the others: is no one out there who got a sirious idea??? please!
and for the others: is no one out there who got a sirious idea??? please!
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- Hun #3
- 4265 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from A quaint little village just south of Hamburg, Germany
Hmm.. some rules of thumb (according to my way of working)
-Make sure the kick has a nice unobstrusive bassline going with it. You needn't really hear it but feel it. It's what makes the kick grooving, or swinging, or stomping respectively. You can add your bass proper later.
-don't be afraid of open 909 hats! Many people loathe them but I've f**ked up so many beats trying to be "different" and using fancy noise hats etc etc instead. Same goes for claps, 808 claps are still the best!
-Sample your own stuff. When I'm done making a synth loop i usually sample one or two bars of it and play those as a pitched instrument in the RMIV. Sometimes the results are less than great, but it will rarely fail to add some extra groove (playing a ryhtmic loop pitched might be part of it)
Also re-sampling your own stuff keeps the sound to the point.
-a moderate swing on the piano roll will always add some life and, erm,,swing to the beats
-compress all of the rythm section, dont listen to what everyone says about heavy compression, it's definately your friend, as is limiting to the point of *slight* distortion. Most tracks I hear in the clubs/on techno and house records are absolute crap mixes as far as muso people are concerned.
This insight had a liberating effect on me, because i was always very (too) careful before that.
Marco
-Make sure the kick has a nice unobstrusive bassline going with it. You needn't really hear it but feel it. It's what makes the kick grooving, or swinging, or stomping respectively. You can add your bass proper later.
-don't be afraid of open 909 hats! Many people loathe them but I've f**ked up so many beats trying to be "different" and using fancy noise hats etc etc instead. Same goes for claps, 808 claps are still the best!
-Sample your own stuff. When I'm done making a synth loop i usually sample one or two bars of it and play those as a pitched instrument in the RMIV. Sometimes the results are less than great, but it will rarely fail to add some extra groove (playing a ryhtmic loop pitched might be part of it)
Also re-sampling your own stuff keeps the sound to the point.
-a moderate swing on the piano roll will always add some life and, erm,,swing to the beats
-compress all of the rythm section, dont listen to what everyone says about heavy compression, it's definately your friend, as is limiting to the point of *slight* distortion. Most tracks I hear in the clubs/on techno and house records are absolute crap mixes as far as muso people are concerned.
This insight had a liberating effect on me, because i was always very (too) careful before that.
Marco
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- KVRist
- 238 posts since 23 Jul, 2001
This one is freakin' funny!Btw, Keule, griels is not German as far as I know. So he won't understand what you've just written. Well, bonte is (as I am) but he obviously prefered to write in English.
Last edited by psynus on Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
WinXP * CubaseSX3 * Intel Core2Duo6800 * 2GB RAM * M-Audio 24/96
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 21 posts since 24 Mar, 2004 from Germany
I see, i know. but "Jugendzentrum" is german word and so i thought 
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
psynus wrote:
Btw, Keule, griels is not German as far as I know. So he won't understand what you've just written.
I'm an honorary hun by association.
By the way, yet more tunes in the pipeline.
Music with dinner is an insult both to the cook and the violinist.