Klanghelm SDRR - flexible saturation plugin released

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Hola, hola, you kill two birds with one stone.

1. Frankly without your presets on DC8C
I`d have to fiddle till the cows go home to land somewhere.
Exciting to see you`ll come up with a counterpart.

2. Was rubbing my eyes, are you going to release a vari-mu clone
or a clone inspired by a vari-mu unit ?

The hardware unit gives such an incredible deep, yet relaxed compression,
I have to agree with "lacandon", UAD does not even come close to it.
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Omkar wrote:Hola, hola, you kill two birds with one stone.

1. Frankly without your presets on DC8C
I`d have to fiddle till the cows go home to land somewhere.
Exciting to see you`ll come up with a counterpart.

2. Was rubbing my eyes, are you going to release a vari-mu clone
or a clone inspired by a vari-mu unit ?

The hardware unit gives such an incredible deep, yet relaxed compression,
I have to agree with "lacandon", UAD does not even come close to it.
He wrote me in facebug its inspired from Retro Sta and 76 and Fairchild and this sounds fantastic and versatile....
And yes Uad are weird recently the Mk2 stuff all of them are superb but the latest releases even the Culture Vulture are nothing like the real deal no idea why ..

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Looking forward for this ready2go compressor! :D
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I own DC8C but actually never use it, the NI comps cover everything i need including Mu.
Will buy this to support you like i did with DC8C, but any chance you are going to do something a bit different/special like SDRR again soon, that thing is one of my favourite processors (software or hardware) ever, everybody i show it to is blown away by it, sorry to say this but another compressor is just a bit 'meh' nowadays.
Duh

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lacandon wrote:He wrote me in facebug its inspired from Retro Sta and 76 and Fairchild
Thanks for the info, I was too fixed on the name I guess,
so we are going to have a tony-mu which is promising enough.
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bungle wrote:I own DC8C but actually never use it, the NI comps cover everything i need including Mu.
Will buy this to support you like i did with DC8C, but any chance you are going to do something a bit different/special like SDRR again soon, that thing is one of my favourite processors (software or hardware) ever, everybody i show it to is blown away by it, sorry to say this but another compressor is just a bit 'meh' nowadays.
If the comps in your arsenal already cover everything for you that's perfectly fine. Personally, I think there's still a lot of room for improvements when it comes to software compression. There are very few examples, that are able to grab the signal in a natural way, that do not beat the signal with their digital hammer. I don't plan to offer an emulation, that's been done over and over again. I don't like cover versions :D Might be a bit early to talk it off as "meh, another compressor".

Tony

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Omkar wrote:
lacandon wrote:He wrote me in facebug its inspired from Retro Sta and 76 and Fairchild
Thanks for the info, I was too fixed on the name I guess,
so we are going to have a tony-mu which is promising enough.
A tony-mu sounds good :). I think the Manley unit is associated with variable-mu compression the most, because it carries the type of compression in the name already :) It seems, the term is not that common as opto, FET or diode, even though their are quite a few (and quite different) variable-mu designs out there (Fairchild, Sta-Level, Altec RS 124, Universal Audio 175/176 - the all-tube-predesessors of the 1176).

Tony

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tonhelm wrote:
Omkar wrote:
lacandon wrote:He wrote me in facebug its inspired from Retro Sta and 76 and Fairchild
Thanks for the info, I was too fixed on the name I guess,
so we are going to have a tony-mu which is promising enough.
A tony-mu sounds good :)
Why not "Honey-Mu" ? (read: Honey-Moo) :D
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May I point out two things in this paragraph:
tonhelm wrote:It seems, the term is not that common as opto, FET or diode, even though their are quite a few (and quite different) variable-mu designs out there (Fairchild, Sta-Level, Altec RS 124, Universal Audio 175/176 - the all-tube-predesessors of the 1176).
If this new compressor is built upon(!) the concept of the Gates STA-LEVEL and the ALTEC/Lisson Grove R124...

We've got:
a) a great (and probably with a fair price/support balance) competitor to Sknote's CPU hog "GTS-39" and "STA-LIMIT" (which I'll definitely look forward to, read my backlogs to understand that comment!)
b) a revival (in spirit) of the now discontinued Abbey Road Plugins creation of the RS-124


Consider me hooked and on board.
Definitely no need to cry after another company...
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tonhelm wrote:
bungle wrote:I own DC8C but actually never use it, the NI comps cover everything i need including Mu.
Will buy this to support you like i did with DC8C, but any chance you are going to do something a bit different/special like SDRR again soon, that thing is one of my favourite processors (software or hardware) ever, everybody i show it to is blown away by it, sorry to say this but another compressor is just a bit 'meh' nowadays.
If the comps in your arsenal already cover everything for you that's perfectly fine. Personally, I think there's still a lot of room for improvements when it comes to software compression. There are very few examples, that are able to grab the signal in a natural way, that do not beat the signal with their digital hammer. I don't plan to offer an emulation, that's been done over and over again. I don't like cover versions :D Might be a bit early to talk it off as "meh, another compressor".

Tony
I take that as a no then, you aren't going to do anything but compressors for a while, oh well
Duh

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In Tony's defence, this compressor has been in the making for over half a year at this point while doing daily maintenance on his existing tools. In parallel, he fixed severe issues for using his tools in Wavelab (the infamous "VST3 Audio Forward Bug"), did "silent" improvements and what have you.

I do consider Klanghelm on similar levels like VoS and TDL. These three (can you say "independent"?) companies think different and don't swim with the crowd. If it's "another" compressor, so be it. As long as it's good and can stand his ground. And as I already hinted at - a certain company might get some serious competition soon (not to mention that scared away customers may find a new home). And Klanghelm is known for treating his customers in a fair way.


If that is not your cup of tea for the time being - I'd say "sorry". But look at the oversaturated plugin market. We get like 10-15 tools each month. Does it really matter if one company is then only releasing one plugin every half to a full year, and then it's not what you expected?

It's like expecting from a time based FX company (think reverb, delay, modulation) to suddenly release a compressor and EQ just to complete the bundle. That kind of thinking is moot IMO.
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And your post had what to do with anything i posted ?
I asked a question, he answered
He doesn't need you defending him, he makes his choices and that's that
Yes the market is saturated and mainly with EQs and Comps (Not including bad VA synths here of course)
And yes that does equate to a new comp being nothing more than a 'meh' for most people
Duh

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bungle wrote:And your post had what to do with anything i posted ?
I asked a question, he answered
He doesn't need you defending him, he makes his choices and that's that
Yes the market is saturated and mainly with EQs and Comps (Not including bad VA synths here of course)
And yes that does equate to a new comp being nothing more than a 'meh' for most people
Yes to this. I am swamped with comps right now. I need to focus on which works better for me... :help:
Barry
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bungle wrote:And your post had what to do with anything i posted ?
Oh, a little bit touchy, aren't we?


bungle wrote:And yes that does equate to a new comp being nothing more than a 'meh' for most people
Maybe it will be "meh" to you, maybe it will be just "the" thing for somebody else, or actually one of the better ports of this concept (think VoS, who's is "evolving" tools rather than purely cloning).

Yes, we have too many EQ's, VA's and compressors already. But finding the "good" ones in the flood of tools is (IMO) the key to this debate here.


And looking at the fact that this compressor will be a "fused concept" of the GATES STA-LEVEL/GTS-39 (so far, only one clone), the Altec RS 124 (the clone has been discontinued), the Fairchild 670 (too many clones to list) and the predecessors of both the LA and 1176, while being on a competitive price and better customer support (or actual fair treatment) than company XYZ...

I just see a different value in this.



YMMV - but at least you have to give Tony some credit to put so much effort into it.
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Compyfox wrote:I do consider Klanghelm on similar levels like VoS and TDL. These three (can you say "independent"?) companies think different and don't swim with the crowd. If it's "another" compressor, so be it. As long as it's good and can stand his ground. And as I already hinted at - a certain company might get some serious competition soon (not to mention that scared away customers may find a new home). And Klanghelm is known for treating his customers in a fair way.
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Why not? There's always a need for better compressors even if there are already 999 compressors on the market!

What I really miss are USABLE, GOOD SOUNDING distortion units. Most distortion effects sound too extreme while most saturation effects often sound too subtle!

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