Apple Acquires Camel Audio

[egbert]

I hope Apple burns in hell.

Never put off till tomorrow what you could do today!

[Nielzie]

Ahh well whatever. Apple or not. After closing shop so suddenly without any further explanation I wasn't planning on buying or using any of their products anyway. It's the way this all was handled that bothered me most, as a customer actually.

Been Kjaerhussed
Been Camelled
Who's next?

[wagtunes]

They bought CA and nobody said anything and Alchemy was gone forever.

Then they came for Spectrasonics and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so Omnisphere was gone forever,

And then they came for Native Instruments and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so all NI products were gone forever.

And then the dominoes just kept falling because nobody said anything except "Eh, life will go on. There are other VSTs. It's not the end of the world" and suddenly there were no more VSTs and the only way to make music was to go back to buying $5,000 keyboards and going into a $1 million recording studio at $300 an hour for studio time.

All because nobody said anything other than "Eh, it's no big deal."

[Lotuzia]

Now that I can talk freely, the other Camel Audio thread was a bit weird to read for a few weeks.

Tbh, I did not know that it was Apple, but knew from the beginning that *some company* had bought the whole thing.( Though I was suspecting Apple from the beginning, for some reasons I cant comment here. -but its always easier to declare such things ... - after )

Its also a bit weird that my Alchemy factory patches might very well in the future be only available on Mac platform, as i'm mainly a PC guy.

Oh well ......

[ras.s]

I don't have any Camel products, I sort of wish I had Alchemy 'cause it really is unique, but --- I wonder if we'll see ZenPunk anymore? He's a nice chap, I don't mind it if he's busy swimming in a pile of cash, but too bad if he's going to stay away now.

[Mushy Mushy]

I don't have any Camel products, I sort of wish I had Alchemy 'cause it really is unique, but --- I wonder if we'll see ZenPunk anymore? He's a nice chap, I don't mind it if he's busy swimming in a pile of cash, but too bad if he's going to stay away now.

I have spoken to ZPH recently.

He's in good spirits which was great to hear.

[Gates of H&I]

They bought CA and nobody said anything and Alchemy was gone forever.

Then they came for Spectrasonics and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so Omnisphere was gone forever,

And then they came for Native Instruments and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so all NI products were gone forever.

And then the dominoes just kept falling because nobody said anything except "Eh, life will go on. There are other VSTs. It's not the end of the world" and suddenly there were no more VSTs and the only way to make music was to go back to buying $5,000 keyboards and going into a $1 million recording studio at $300 an hour for studio time.

All because nobody said anything other than "Eh, it's no big deal."

Thank god for you, the lone whistleblower in this imaginary universe of oppressed audio hobbyists.

Get a grip.

[ras.s]

Thanks Mushy for that, it was really my only speculation about this whole subject. ;-)

[Rajah]

They bought CA and nobody said anything and Alchemy was gone forever.

Then they came for Spectrasonics and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so Omnisphere was gone forever,

And then they came for Native Instruments and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so all NI products were gone forever.

And then the dominoes just kept falling because nobody said anything except "Eh, life will go on. There are other VSTs. It's not the end of the world" and suddenly there were no more VSTs and the only way to make music was to go back to buying $5,000 keyboards and going into a $1 million recording studio at $300 an hour for studio time.

All because nobody said anything other than "Eh, it's no big deal."

Ahhh... Was thinking about getting Omnisphere 2... But what if Apple acquire Spectrasonic? I will be a fool 'again'... Something needs to be done about these buy-outs that screws so many of us... They are killing an Industry...

[fmr]

Why would Apple not continue to sell the original Alchemy to PC users?

maybe, as i suspect, the engines will end up broken down to be reassembled in a logic supersampler (along with the redmatica features), and there will be no 'alchemy' left to sell

Are you REALLY convinced they will create a "supersampler" to include in Logic?

THAT would be a surprise to me.

putting aside the emoticon that suggests you might be joking, why not ??

the exs24 is way overdue for an overhaul, and more than just it's gui. maybe they are taking cues from steinberg, with cubase including HALion and padshop tech, and buying in one of the best suited teams for the task. it makes sense, when you think about them having already bought out redmatica.

while many believe they just killed off redmatica, the auto sampling features have already made it into mainstage

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2015/02/a ... -software/

No, it was you who were joking. And argumenting with the auto-sampling feature, when Redmatica main product was a very powerful sample editor and instrument builder, started exactly for EXS 24, none of which appeared after that, very well supports my case.

I agree that exs24 needs an overhaul, but considering they even didn't bother revising their bread and butter plug-ins for a very long time (they revised the EQ after launching Logic 9, and now the compressor, and that's all they did in about five years), and that the last instrument big launch was Sculpture and the Ultrabeat drum machine (which is also in need of an overhaul) in the already distant year of 2004 (Logic Pro 7), considering also that Retro Synth is nothing else than a repackaging of the ES2 synth engine with a simplified skin, you will reach the same conclusion - A "supersampler" for Logic is not likely to appear, simply because that's not what the target market of Logic (in the POV of Apple) wants - they want simple, ready made instruments, not "superduper" pieces of gear.

A "supersampler" bult-in in Logic would be a waste, nevertheless

Not that I don't think it deserves - Logic is a superb music tool, and deserves everything, but I don't see Apple taking much care of it, or that particular market. That's why this buyout is even more surprising.

[Deist]

And turning this into a PC/Mac thing is so pointless. Being bought out by any DAW maker was inevitably going to exclude users of other software from using future Camel products. Would you rather they'd been bought out by Cakewalk so you couldn't use Alchemy 2 without Sonar? Or if you already use Sonar, just consider Image-Line, or Ableton, or whoever. Did you just think that if they had been bought out, it would just happen to be by the developers of your favourite DAW?

Hahaha, sorry man, don't mean no disrespect, but your comment just made me laugh like a maniac (tears starting to pearl and all).

Anybody using eg. Image-Line synths without owning FL Studio, Retrologue or Padshop Pro without owning Cubase, or Zeta+2, Ratpure and Dimension Pro without ever having had to launch Sonar will appreciate just how misinformed your post is... Which was fun!

[trimph1]

They bought CA and nobody said anything and Alchemy was gone forever.

Then they came for Spectrasonics and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so Omnisphere was gone forever,

And then they came for Native Instruments and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so all NI products were gone forever.

And then the dominoes just kept falling because nobody said anything except "Eh, life will go on. There are other VSTs. It's not the end of the world" and suddenly there were no more VSTs and the only way to make music was to go back to buying $5,000 keyboards and going into a $1 million recording studio at $300 an hour for studio time.

All because nobody said anything other than "Eh, it's no big deal."

EEEP!!!!

I knew something was up then this came along!!!

You, sir, are the very image of a Prophet Of Doom

[BITWORD]

They bought CA and nobody said anything and Alchemy was gone forever.

Then they came for Spectrasonics and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so Omnisphere was gone forever,

And then they came for Native Instruments and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so all NI products were gone forever.

And then the dominoes just kept falling because nobody said anything except "Eh, life will go on. There are other VSTs. It's not the end of the world" and suddenly there were no more VSTs and the only way to make music was to go back to buying $5,000 keyboards and going into a $1 million recording studio at $300 an hour for studio time.

All because nobody said anything other than "Eh, it's no big deal."

[treebeard]

Didn't they get Redmatica too?

[fmr]

They bought CA and nobody said anything and Alchemy was gone forever.

Then they came for Spectrasonics and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so Omnisphere was gone forever,

And then they came for Native Instruments and the money was just too tempting. And nobody said anything so all NI products were gone forever.

And then the dominoes just kept falling because nobody said anything except "Eh, life will go on. There are other VSTs. It's not the end of the world" and suddenly there were no more VSTs and the only way to make music was to go back to buying $5,000 keyboards and going into a $1 million recording studio at $300 an hour for studio time.

All because nobody said anything other than "Eh, it's no big deal."

It's a caricature, but there is something true in this