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dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:54 pm

Alchemy replacements can be Absynth or Blue II.
These have several synthesis types and quite complex synths to create strange soundscapes...

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:03 pm

dune_rave wrote:Alchemy replacements can be Absynth or Blue II.
These have several synthesis types and quite complex synths to create strange soundscapes...

sadly absynth doesnt come close to Alchemy for me how i used it

blue 2 turned me off cause of the gui

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:06 pm

Yeah - Alchemy has great gui and modulation and handling.
But considering only the sounds there are some synths with similar hybrid voice.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:08 pm

I dunno Tone2 synths,
maybe Electrax can count as replacement...

Sorry, Electrax no longer available - it was replaced with Electra 2

(and it even has more synthesis types than Alchemy and has layers and sample import...)

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:15 pm

dune_rave wrote:I dunno Tone2 synths,
maybe Electrax can count as replacement...

Sorry, Electrax no longer available - it was replaced with Electra 2

(and it even has more synthesis types than Alchemy and has layers and sample import...)

yep but the possibilites with the gui and modulations like Alchemy doesnt have it i think last i tested it

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atm nothing has the capabilities like alchemy i think with the modulations etc. and sounds like it.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:19 pm

Yea, hard to find better stuff, because it was in the same category with Omnisphere
(same price range too)

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:42 pm

Just reading Electra faq:
"
Can i still use my software if Tone2 should discontinue the business?

Unlike competing companies Tone2 won’t go broke in the future. Our software will continue to work even if a nuclear bomb would be dropped on Europe.
"

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:18 pm

fedexnman wrote:Who what an Alchemy replacement ? Maybe after July 7th we will find out at summer Namm or maybe soon at winter Namm .

No one buys Camel Audio then kills the goose that laid the Alchemy egg in the hope of publically reviving their flagship application sometime in July.

So here is what happed?:
XYZ Co. bought an exclusive option to buy CA till July 7. During this time they will examine Alchemy to see what they can do to it. If they feel that they have not improved Alchemy 2 to the point of becoming a commercial success XYZ Co. will let the option expire and we will never be the wiser. If on the other hand they are happy with the development they will exercise their option to buy CA and release Alchemy 2. The announcement to release Alchemy 2 can come anytime between now and mid July 2015.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:27 pm

Kalamata Kid wrote:
fedexnman wrote:Who what an Alchemy replacement ? Maybe after July 7th we will find out at summer Namm or maybe soon at winter Namm .
No one buys Camel Audio then kills the goose that laid the Alchemy egg in the hope of publically reviving their flagship application sometime in July.

So here is what happed?:
XYZ Co. bought an exclusive option to buy CA till July 7. During this time they will examine Alchemy to see what they can do to it. If they feel that they have not improved Alchemy 2 to the point of becoming a commercial success XYZ Co. will let the option expire and we will never be the wiser. If on the other hand they are happy with the development they will exercise their option to buy CA and release Alchemy 2. The announcement to release Alchemy 2 can come anytime between now and mid July 2015.

i just hope that i can use my Alchemy without problems in future as it works since fl studio 8 for me without any probs so normally if the DAWs devs dont change something it should still work. but how do they handle the activation of serials? i dont mean to motivate to pirate but what happens to us legal customers?

JonSolo · Post by **JonSolo** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:24 am

It was Apple.

Alchemy was unique. Things might be able to fill the shoes, but nothing takes the place of. I like it a lot. Love Omnisphere.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:15 am

I guess we saw this coming. Alchemy didn't contain anything really new under the sun, and it's resynthesis engine wasn't the best sounding one, but that didn't matter. Alchemy's strength was that it was more than the sum of it's features. I always thought it had a great UI and was mostly fun to work with. Logic users are sure going to love v2. :/

But, like others have mentioned, there are already other products that cover parts of Alchemy and... who knows? Maybe now that there's an Alchemy shaped hole in the market, someone will some along and release a contender. Actually, it would be an awesome time for Native Instruments to add some additive functions to Absynth, which is pretty overdue for an update.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:40 am

All things considered: no real replacement - but maybe Zebra3 in the future (or Omnisphere2)

JonSolo · Post by **JonSolo** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:47 pm

kiezum wrote:If apple bought camel audio... that would be so sad!

It seems to be official. Be sad.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:01 pm

Now with Alchemy PC vacuum confirmed NI Abstynth 6 may be pushed to be released sooner or improved considerable and released a later.

The other obvious alternative may be MachFive. I am sure special meetings were set up in several developers to examine their options.

who could do an Alchemy replacement? spectrasonics?