DHR, maybe they could add that as an option in one of the menus somewhere.
It funny because now that live is evolving into a better, more fully developed sequencer they're going to have to make some tough choices. For me, who wants to use live in a live setting, not hearing the notes as I add them is key, but I can totally see your point about wanting to hear them in a studio setting.
Ableton Live 4 beta
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- KVRist
- 495 posts since 5 Sep, 2002 from Boston, Mass
If it sounds good it is good.
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- KVRian
- 980 posts since 25 Feb, 2003
That's exactly how it usualy workes in Live's arrangement view. For audio that is.no_barcode wrote:Does anyone know if moving one clip (we'll say: "clip B") into another clip ("clip A") in the arrangement view, releasing the button, and then moving "clip B" again is suppose to delete part of "clip A"?
Btw.: Anybody got an answer to my MIDI Panic question?
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- KVRist
- 185 posts since 3 Nov, 2002
Oh... I wonder what benefit that provides?dr.wackler wrote:That's exactly how it usualy workes in Live's arrangement view. For audio that is.no_barcode wrote:Does anyone know if moving one clip (we'll say: "clip B") into another clip ("clip A") in the arrangement view, releasing the button, and then moving "clip B" again is suppose to delete part of "clip A"?
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- KVRian
- 980 posts since 25 Feb, 2003
It's a "paste over" paradigm and garants fast working when you arrange.no_barcode wrote:Oh... I wonder what benefit that provides?dr.wackler wrote:That's exactly how it usualy workes in Live's arrangement view. For audio that is.no_barcode wrote:Does anyone know if moving one clip (we'll say: "clip B") into another clip ("clip A") in the arrangement view, releasing the button, and then moving "clip B" again is suppose to delete part of "clip A"?
Logic (my main host) works the other way - i.e. if you want to exchange some part, you have to first delete what is there, to free the space for what you want to move there. I must say that in general I prefer the Live way to do it.
And: By simply dragging the right corner of the 'cutted' file (here: "clip A") you can always easily recover what has been deleted - nothing is deleted really.
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- KVRist
- 185 posts since 3 Nov, 2002
Ahhh, that's cool! Makes sense now, thank you sir.dr.wackler wrote:It's a "paste over" paradigm and garants fast working when you arrange.
Logic (my main host) works the other way - i.e. if you want to exchange some part, you have to first delete what is there, to free the space for what you want to move there. I must say that in general I prefer the Live way to do it.
And: By simply dragging the right corner of the 'cutted' file (here: "clip A") you can always easily recover what has been deleted - nothing is deleted really.
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- KVRAF
- 2874 posts since 22 Oct, 2002 from "somewhere between digital and analog"
I tend to think of Session view for the "Live" devotees, and Arrange as more of a traditional sequencer... But I may just be trying to mold it to my own purposes... Hmmm... Could be approached that way though by Ableton if they wanted to... I still don't get the Session/Arrange paradigm if you will... To me it's a Loop player and a sequencer... Maybe I need a book to enlighten me??
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- KVRian
- 980 posts since 25 Feb, 2003
And your point is?DHR53 wrote:I tend to think of Session view for the "Live" devotees, and Arrange as more of a traditional sequencer... But I may just be trying to mold it to my own purposes... Hmmm... Could be approached that way though by Ableton if they wanted to... I still don't get the Session/Arrange paradigm if you will... To me it's a Loop player and a sequencer... Maybe I need a book to enlighten me??
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- KVRAF
- 2874 posts since 22 Oct, 2002 from "somewhere between digital and analog"
I still don't know where to start... Session or Arrange... Like I said, if I was going to preview some loops together and see how they work with each other, I'd use Session view.. But if I was going to load AUs and VSTs and play my Kybd. I'd (currently) use the Arrange view... I don't know if that's the best way to approach this... Maybe I'm thinking too linear...
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- KVRian
- 980 posts since 25 Feb, 2003
Ahh, so you mean you use them separate from each other like two different programs. Well, if that works best for you, then why not. But indeed that way you ignore the one main feature that makes Live so different, and that is the possibility to record all your actions while you improvise in Session view...DHR53 wrote:I still don't know where to start... Session or Arrange... Like I said, if I was going to preview some loops together and see how they work with each other, I'd use Session view.. But if I was going to load AUs and VSTs and play my Kybd. I'd (currently) use the Arrange view... I don't know if that's the best way to approach this... Maybe I'm thinking too linear...
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- KVRAF
- 2874 posts since 22 Oct, 2002 from "somewhere between digital and analog"
I understand the principle, but it seems to me that I either end up going too long or too short (bars), or the whole thing becomes a jumble sort of... But maybe I haven't figured this out yet? I tend to write in chorus, break, chorus, type format, where jamming a 10 bar variation just doesn't seem to be of much value... But maybe I need to reexamine my approach! I'm getting sort of bored with my stuff anyway... Ha Ha!