Internet subscription and music streaming business may collapse sooner than we think

[Chapelle]

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[Numanoid]

I really do hope Spotify collapses, it has taken all the fun away from record collecting

[Tricky-Loops]

I really do hope Spotify collapses, it has taken all the fun away from record collecting

Did Spotify forbid you to collect records?

[aMUSEd]

But with huge powerhouse artists like the Rolling Stones, Taylor Swift, and many many others walking away from this business model, just from a judicious business point of view, I'd very worried.

I can listen to the Rolling Stones on Spotify, who said they are walking away from this business model?
Also, can you list some of the "many many other" powerhouse artists? There are a few who weren't on these services from the beginning, but I haven't heard from other big name artists than Ms. Swift who are pulling their music from Spotify and similar services.

I don't see the streaming business going away anytime soon, btw. It might go away someday, only to be replaced by something that pays the artists even less.

Taylor Swift not being on Spotify is no great loss anyway.

[Numanoid]

I really do hope Spotify collapses, it has taken all the fun away from record collecting

Did Spotify forbid you to collect records?

Records has little value anymore.

You used to have to spend hours digging in dusty crates in dingy shops to get to the good bits.

Now anybody can just stream it.

The effort it used to take to discover music has disappared. And I miss that...

[ntom]

I really do hope Spotify collapses, it has taken all the fun away from record collecting

Did Spotify forbid you to collect records?

Records has little value anymore.

You used to have to spend hours digging in dusty crates in dingy shops to get to the good bits.

Now anybody can just stream it.

The effort it used to take to discover music has disappared. And I miss that...

You can still do that...I don't see what the point is that you are trying to make.

Many would claim they are glad discovery is so much easier now. I would be one of those. I don't have the money, nor the interest to sift threw pounds of garbage before I get to something good. While I am obviously not "everybody", I feel confident enough to speak for a majority that the shift in making music discovery easier was because of a major want to make it easier. Music discovery is exactly what Pandora was founded on, and it's what LastFM followed suit in. Things move forward for the many, they don't stick back for the few.

[Tricky-Loops]

I really do hope Spotify collapses, it has taken all the fun away from record collecting

Did Spotify forbid you to collect records?

Records has little value anymore.

You used to have to spend hours digging in dusty crates in dingy shops to get to the good bits.

Now anybody can just stream it.

The effort it used to take to discover music has disappared. And I miss that...

But these times are over for ages now. Even in the 80ies I mainly listened to cassettes, not to vinyl records anymore.

My Enigma cassettes from the early 90ies are somewhere lost in a box in the basement of my parents more than 250 kilometers away. When I want to listen to Enigma, I simply start Spotify! It's so much easier and I don't miss diggin' in da basement!

Despite that, they're selling cheap vinyl-record/CD/MP3-players with record and restore feature even in German discounters now, for less than 100 Euro!

[Tricky-Loops]

I don't have the money, nor the interest to sift threw pounds of garbage before I get to something good.

Time is another issue! On the other hand, it was a good waste of time 8 years ago when I was diggin' in the counters of the Mediamarkt and I found the (original) "Nevermind" CD by Nirvana for only 5 Euro!

[DJ Warmonger]

The effort it used to take to discover music has disappared.

There were almost 800 trance tracks released on Beatport over last week only. It takes A LOT of effort to check all the music available, and in fact it's not possible.

[Tricky-Loops]

The effort it used to take to discover music has disappared.

There were almost 800 trance tracks released on Beatport over last week only. It takes A LOT of effort to check all the music available, and in fact it's not possible.

Probably 799 of them sound the same, anyway!

[ntom]

I don't have the money, nor the interest to sift threw pounds of garbage before I get to something good.

Time is another issue! On the other hand, it was a good waste of time 8 years ago when I was diggin' in the counters of the Mediamarkt and I found the (original) "Nevermind" CD by Nirvana for only 5 Euro!

This is what I am saying though; like, if that's your thing, (not you, per se, Tricky, but the forum people in general) you can still do it. Thrifting is still very much a thing. Go to Goodwills, go to second hand shops. They more-often-than-not have a fairly extensive music section of every physical format music has been in since 12 inch vinyls and up. If I am ever near a Goodwill I browse through this just in case I do find that "Nevermind" album
But, I don't actively go out of my way to thrift for music. I would rather spend the time working on music.

[bluedad]

Led Zepplin just came to Rhapsody, so no, I don't think the subscription model is going anywhere.

[Hink]

The effort it used to take to discover music has disappared.

There were almost 800 trance tracks released on Beatport over last week only. It takes A LOT of effort to check all the music available, and in fact it's not possible.

I dont think that is what he meant, my take on it and honestly this is how I feel is that there use to be a day where you went hunting for an album you already wanted. Things were in print and out print often and record stores really only stocked the up to date stuff. I miss this and I dont, there was a time where every mall had a bunch of record stores and department stores sold records but then there were the out of the way places, some even sold bootleg live recordings (no word of lie, in Waltham Mass during the 70's we use to buy bootleg live albums in the backroom of a shoe store).

I have many fond memories of being out with friends on such quests, it was a great feeling when you scored that album you had been looking for for years. I remember once I was with my ex girlfriend way up in Maine, we pulled into this gas station/general store/post office/center of town place that was well over 100 years old. There was one of those spinning cassette displays on the counter that looked as if no one had removed a tape in many years. I was thumbing through it and there I found Sweet Desolation BLVD an album that I loved, hadn't had in years and was searching for...I couldn't even order it because they said it was out print. Those were killer highs.

Of course now I can find most anything on Amazon that I might be searching for, not quite as much of a high but then I am getting older, I really dont like driving much anymore and I could live fine without stepping in another mall again so I'm not complaining. But those were fun days

[Deep Purple]

Taylor Swift not being on Spotify is no great loss anyway.

I think I would list that among its benefits...

[Gonga]

Music creation/performance as a career is headed in a downward direction and has been for years. It has always been a struggle. It has gotten worse. And I expect it to get worse still. It's a shame. The bright spot is that there will always be great musicians offering their work. We (including the not-so great) can still teach. But we'll be seeing less and less of the types of things that are really expensive from the creative smaller entities, like hiring composers , studio time, touring, orchestras, etc. The larger industry investors will still be investing in beige-blandish movie, radio, TV and dance music for the masses, so even more and more career musicians will be doing that than they are now. And so it goes - the notion of a gifted writer or band creating a truly different, creative, original, influential album is more and more a rarity. Those of us who actually remember the 60s and 70s know what I'm talking about.