KVR Audio

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:34 am

I'm finding it impossible to find a decent music player on Mac, iTunes just gets worse and worse, it never supported FLAC, and has no ability to actually browse a music collection the way I have it organised (ie by folders and subfolders), and the add insult to injury the latest version always starts up loading the Apple music store when you click on 'Music" tab by default.

I tried VOX, it has some great features such as being able to route music to my hifi speakers (it's the only one I have found that does this properly) and FLAC support but again it doesn't allow you to actually browse a music collection, you just get a long list of tracks in any particular folder but no organisation by subfolders. Frustrating really because apart from that limitation this is the best.

Same problem with Fidelia.

Tried Cog, which does have a file browser but annoyingly you still have to add tracks to a playlist before you can play them, and it doesn't support sending music to my external hifi (via HDMI)

Are there any that actually let you just browse a music collection and play tracks directly from it, and also route music through a hifi via HDMI?

coquillo · Post by **coquillo** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:53 pm

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:22 am

Doesn't seem to have a way to add my whole music library and browse it. Also I can't see a switch to output to my hifi via HDMI like Vox has (which is essential)

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:26 am

https://www.clementine-player.org/

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:29 am

Thanks - I tried Clementine, it has a lot of features and I like the Spotify integration but the sound engine somehow seems to make the music sound bad. Plus it ignores the hdmi out, even if I have switched the whole system to outputting to my hifi it still insists on just using my main audio interface.

Maadfoo · Post by **Maadfoo** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:36 am

Winamp?

http://www.winamp.com/

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:39 am

I didn't realise there was a Mac version but as I recall the Windows version didn't have a proper file browser and you had to add an extension to add one, which isn't for Mac

http://winampheritage.com/mlplugin/inde ... umlp-about

Maadfoo · Post by **Maadfoo** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:46 am

ok...just found another one which maybe suits your needs

http://www.getmiro.com/index.php

how about this one?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:11 am

Thanks, hadn't come across that one but just tried it, still another that has no folder browser. Why do these developers think people can browse music just based on a long list of track names?

Maadfoo · Post by **Maadfoo** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:32 am

Haha, ok...maybe you have some advanced imaginations that cannot be fullfilled yet. On the other hand I didn't really understand what your problem with the media-management is in all these players.

Concerning the Management-issue this software might look promising?

http://swinsian.com/

unfortunately it is not free

sprnva · Post by **sprnva** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:42 am

What I wouldn't give for a Mac port of Foobar 2000 (and it's plugins).

Clementine has the library folder (with watching) but it feels bloated for a music player. Enqueue might work for you but I haven't tried it as I don't really want to pay for a music player when I listen to most of my music on Windows.

Nightpolymath · Post by **Nightpolymath** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:01 pm

There are a lot of high quality combined DAC/music players that play FLAC like those from Cowon and iBasso. I use a Cowon myself, which has a great browser, and I hook it up via HDMI to my stereo system. And it frees up my Mac for other duties. Transferring from the Mac to Cowon is as simple as drag-and-drop, which is what you want.

xNiMiNx · Post by **xNiMiNx** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:09 pm

aMUSEd wrote:I didn't realise there was a Mac version but as I recall the Windows version didn't have a proper file browser and you had to add an extension to add one, which isn't for Mac

http://winampheritage.com/mlplugin/inde ... umlp-about

I never had a need for any extra plugins. If you press J to bring up the Jump To List, you can type partial names like doo to bring up all doors songs, you can queue up for example 45 songs in that window, while still having winamp set to random songs, this way you hear what you wanted to hear, and when complete, back to random.

Another nice thing is that the Jump to window search will also check tags, so you can search for an album name, that isnt in the file name.

DrO's Jump To File plugin (gen_jumpex.dll) comes with winamp default, i think since around version 5.03

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:14 pm

Maadfoo wrote:Haha, ok...maybe you have some advanced imaginations that cannot be fullfilled yet. On the other hand I didn't really understand what your problem with the media-management is in all these players.

It's basically a case of not finding something like this particularly useful or organised:

compared to something like this:

Cog was at least along the right lines but no longer being developed. Something that combines the browsing and overall utility of Cog with the functionality of Vox would be perfect.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:49 pm

Maadfoo wrote:Winamp?

http://www.winamp.com/

Still the best music player out there. And even though it is not actively developed anymore it is pretty complete anyway.

Why are all music players (on Mac) so useless?