It's twice as good as 0.005hzfluffy_little_something wrote:
What does 0.01 Hz sound like?
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Not sure but i know it gives me GASfluffy_little_something wrote:On their site it says:
"The oscillators perform extremely well in both the very low (down to 0.01Hz and below!) and very high (all the way up to half the samplerate) frequency regions without losing their sharpness, liveliness or character."
What does 0.01 Hz sound like?
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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Maybe it should be 0.01 khz, i.e. 10 Hz, that might make more sense 
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An Earthquake....................fluffy_little_something wrote:On their site it says:
"The oscillators perform extremely well in both the very low (down to 0.01Hz and below!) and very high (all the way up to half the samplerate) frequency regions without losing their sharpness, liveliness or character."
What does 0.01 Hz sound like?
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The best things are those people cannot hear, anyway. Music has to be felt! 
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Back on topic!? Whew...finally...Teksonik wrote:Anyway somewhat back on topic.........Ruben is there any time line on the release of a new version of Sylenth ? Any official list of new features ?
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Should we pay silly prices for old gear just for the sake of nostalgia ? I thought my Juno 60 sounded awesome back in the day but now compared to what we have at our fingertips it sounds absolutely horrid.Lotuzia wrote: Should we abandon these instruments because they cost more than the price of two hamburgers ?
That's drivel.....not to get into too much complicated explanations.Lotuzia wrote:In an analog synth, everything happens simultaneously, and, equally important, interacts simultaneously. Not to enter into too much complicated explanations, there are many problems to translate all these endless factors into the digital word..
But like I said a few posts back use whatever inspires you. I've just spent the last hour playing a luSH101, PolyAna, DUNE 2, and Predator layer. The resulting sound is beyond awesome. The possible combinations I can construct using synths like the ones I just mentioned and others like Alchemy, Sylenth, Z3ta+2, Diversion, Vacuum, etc, etc is nearly endless. I'm never looking back to hardware............
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Well for a minute anyway.Examigan wrote:Back on topic!? Whew...finally...Teksonik wrote:Anyway somewhat back on topic.........Ruben is there any time line on the release of a new version of Sylenth ? Any official list of new features ?
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It would help if we could get more teasers about a Sylenth update.............like WHEN......... 
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I used to feel it all the time......whenever I would start playing my guitar my ex-wife would hit me in the back of the head and tell me to stop that noise. That's why she's my EX wife...........Tricky-Loops wrote:The best things are those people cannot hear, anyway. Music has to be felt!
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Who said anything about buying old gear for the sake of nostalgia?Teksonik wrote:Should we pay silly prices for old gear just for the sake of nostalgia ? I thought my Juno 60 sounded awesome back in the day but now compared to what we have at our fingertips it sounds absolutely horrid.Lotuzia wrote: Should we abandon these instruments because they cost more than the price of two hamburgers ?
That's drivel.....not to get into too much complicated explanations.Lotuzia wrote:In an analog synth, everything happens simultaneously, and, equally important, interacts simultaneously. Not to enter into too much complicated explanations, there are many problems to translate all these endless factors into the digital word..![]()
But like I said a few posts back use whatever inspires you. I've just spent the last hour playing a luSH101, PolyAna, DUNE 2, and Predator layer. The resulting sound is beyond awesome. The possible combinations I can construct using synths like the ones I just mentioned and others like Alchemy, Sylenth, Z3ta+2, Diversion, Vacuum, etc, etc is nearly endless. I'm never looking back to hardware............
As if nostalgia rather then the quality and sound of the instrument was behind every violinist's dream to play a Stradivarious.
Regarding what you call "drivel":
Obviously you are unaware of the issues with analog/digital conversion and the meaning of zero delay feedback.
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I don't want to spend the time to put together such a comparison. If you are interested, go down to a local shop (if you have one) and do an hour or two of experimenting. The difference is obvious.Teksonik wrote:See now that is an actual answer. Can you post an example of "analog smooth" and digital "brittle and thin" ? I'd genuinely be interested in hearing the difference.pdxindy wrote: Nevertheless, analogue has some sonic advantages... when I start pushing the lfo up into audio rate territory, or playing sync sounds up around C6 and higher, analogue stays smooth and digital starts to get brittle and thin sounding. Softsynths are better at 96khz than at 44.1, but it is still there. Analogue essentially has an infinite sample rate. The more you push out to the boundaries, the more there is a sonic difference.
In addition to an infinite sample rate, analogue (actual existence) is arbitrarily complex. Digital is absurdly simple by comparison. It takes a lot of cpu power to even begin to model that complexity.
The usual online video/audio comparisons are always skewed towards simplicity. Play a simple static note on an analogue and then emulate it with the digital version. For this, digital is pretty damn impressive these days... basically identical.
But when you start tweaking, modulating, and pushing into more complex territory, then there is a clear audible difference.
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You can easily spend that much on a guitar as well... which also has 6 notes of polyphony.Teksonik wrote:And the combination is $3,200 before any taxes and gives you a whopping two notes and four notes polyphony respectively.pdxindy wrote:a Moog Sub 37 today is reliable.....I have an Elektron Analog Keys
The computer/software system you could build for that same money would blow that combination away even if we take the tiny differences in sound as being in favor of the hardware.
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Then again, doesn't the "infinite sampling rate advantage" disappear as soon as you record and playback an analog synth via some digital device like computer and DAW? Any device which has A/D and/or D/A converters? (Which might also be why some people keep saying music recorded on tape machines sounded better, I suppose.)pdxindy wrote:In addition to an infinite sample rate, analogue (actual existence) is arbitrarily complex. Digital is absurdly simple by comparison. It takes a lot of cpu power to even begin to model that complexity.
The usual online video/audio comparisons are always skewed towards simplicity. Play a simple static note on an analogue and then emulate it with the digital version. For this, digital is pretty damn impressive these days... basically identical.
But when you start tweaking, modulating, and pushing into more complex territory, then there is a clear audible difference.
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That is not drivel... Lotuzia is right. Analogue is immediate and simultaneous. Digital is not because there are calculations that take time.Teksonik wrote:That's drivel.....not to get into too much complicated explanations.Lotuzia wrote:In an analog synth, everything happens simultaneously, and, equally important, interacts simultaneously. Not to enter into too much complicated explanations, there are many problems to translate all these endless factors into the digital world..
