Wow Me! (Synth Suggestions...Dune 2 Winner Prize Ready...Update 5/5)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 22876 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Thanks. I think I have all the AAS products I want and as for Aalto and Kaivo, the interfaces drive me up a wall. Probably the worst I've seen of any VST out there and that's saying something.pdxindy wrote:Chromaphone
Aalto
Kaivo
- KVRAF
- 18353 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I'll put some votes in for:
Curve 2
Diversion (really amazing)
I don't think I agree that Oxium sounds like everything else in it's class though. I'd say it has a sweetness to the resonance and overall warmth that few other similar synths have and it does some interesting tricks, like the Le Masque controller modulation stuff, formant filter, etc. Very nice overdriven filter sound too.
Curve 2
Diversion (really amazing)
I don't think I agree that Oxium sounds like everything else in it's class though. I'd say it has a sweetness to the resonance and overall warmth that few other similar synths have and it does some interesting tricks, like the Le Masque controller modulation stuff, formant filter, etc. Very nice overdriven filter sound too.
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- KVRAF
- 26932 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Yeah, interface is not my favorite... but they are sonically unique.wagtunes wrote:Thanks. I think I have all the AAS products I want and as for Aalto and Kaivo, the interfaces drive me up a wall. Probably the worst I've seen of any VST out there and that's saying something.pdxindy wrote:Chromaphone
Aalto
Kaivo
- KVRAF
- 18353 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Interesting... I never took to Kaivo, but I love Aalto and I've always thought it's interface was very clear and fun to work with.wagtunes wrote:Thanks. I think I have all the AAS products I want and as for Aalto and Kaivo, the interfaces drive me up a wall. Probably the worst I've seen of any VST out there and that's saying something.pdxindy wrote:Chromaphone
Aalto
Kaivo
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- KVRian
- 991 posts since 9 Feb, 2013 from dallas tx
of the 4 left for consideration I'd get spectral it is high on my list of most unusual sounding while it still can do bread and butter sounds. There is just something special about that synth. there was a guy who put up a thread on here a few months back that had his demos for some banks he did with it and they were very very nice. I would say they are top ten all time in terms of the best sounding banks I have ever listened to in terms of variety of sound and the strangeness of the music he produced in the demos.
- KVRAF
- 37383 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
They both are.zerocrossing wrote:Interesting... I never took to Kaivo, but I love Aalto and I've always thought it's interface was very clear and fun to work with.wagtunes wrote:Thanks. I think I have all the AAS products I want and as for Aalto and Kaivo, the interfaces drive me up a wall. Probably the worst I've seen of any VST out there and that's saying something.pdxindy wrote:Chromaphone
Aalto
Kaivo
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 22876 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Okay, dove into Spectral today and here's my feedback.
At first, I didn't like it. I thought the presets were uninteresting. Finally I said "screw this" and looked for the init patch. I then dug into the synth and started programming.
I love the flexibility of this synth. There is a bit of a learning curve as far as finding everything because there is so much "push a button to bring X up" going on as the whole interface is essentially one screen. But eventually I got the hang of it.
This synth is all about the oscillators and filters. There are enough modulation slots to be versatile enough. It's not Synthmaster or Zebra 2 but it's not trying to be. What it does it does very well. With time and patience, you can get a lot of interesting sounds out of this thing.
It isn't the easiest synth to program because of all the wave draw involved, but it's worth the effort. Being able to route each oscillator to a different filter is nice, even though the only filter types are low pass. In practice, they're really not because of the wave draw. You just need a good understanding of how EQ works, more or less.
In comparison to Oxium, they're two different synths. Oxium can't do what this synth can do but this synth can't really get the kind of sounds Oxium can get. So I may end up, someday, getting both of them. Right now I'm leaning towards getting Spectral first though I still have to check out Enzyme.
That's where I am at the moment.
At first, I didn't like it. I thought the presets were uninteresting. Finally I said "screw this" and looked for the init patch. I then dug into the synth and started programming.
I love the flexibility of this synth. There is a bit of a learning curve as far as finding everything because there is so much "push a button to bring X up" going on as the whole interface is essentially one screen. But eventually I got the hang of it.
This synth is all about the oscillators and filters. There are enough modulation slots to be versatile enough. It's not Synthmaster or Zebra 2 but it's not trying to be. What it does it does very well. With time and patience, you can get a lot of interesting sounds out of this thing.
It isn't the easiest synth to program because of all the wave draw involved, but it's worth the effort. Being able to route each oscillator to a different filter is nice, even though the only filter types are low pass. In practice, they're really not because of the wave draw. You just need a good understanding of how EQ works, more or less.
In comparison to Oxium, they're two different synths. Oxium can't do what this synth can do but this synth can't really get the kind of sounds Oxium can get. So I may end up, someday, getting both of them. Right now I'm leaning towards getting Spectral first though I still have to check out Enzyme.
That's where I am at the moment.
- KVRian
- 1478 posts since 14 Jul, 2013 from Sweden
Look here:
And Syn'X is the only soft synth emulation , that I'm aware of, of this synth. The famous ELKA Synthex.
On the Syn'Xyou can do this sound and more. It's really an amazing and unique synth. A real monster actually.
And having seen what others have here at KVR - With Syn'X you'll almost certain have something they don't
The syntesizers from XILS-Lab are more appreciated and used by proffesionals then by the average kvrian (see the ranking page to get any idea of what's popular here).
So, yes this synth is a complex hih quality working tool. Just as many of the fine instruments in your list. Like Reaktor, FM8 an dKontakt.
You are obviously very serous about synthesizers. So I really think this is a good choice for you.
Here's a good review at Sound On Sound. (Syn'X is formerly known as Synthix).
Cheers !
And Syn'X is the only soft synth emulation , that I'm aware of, of this synth. The famous ELKA Synthex.
On the Syn'Xyou can do this sound and more. It's really an amazing and unique synth. A real monster actually.
And having seen what others have here at KVR - With Syn'X you'll almost certain have something they don't
The syntesizers from XILS-Lab are more appreciated and used by proffesionals then by the average kvrian (see the ranking page to get any idea of what's popular here).
So, yes this synth is a complex hih quality working tool. Just as many of the fine instruments in your list. Like Reaktor, FM8 an dKontakt.
You are obviously very serous about synthesizers. So I really think this is a good choice for you.
Here's a good review at Sound On Sound. (Syn'X is formerly known as Synthix).
Cheers !
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- KVRAF
- 8413 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
wagtunes wrote:Thanks. I think I have all the AAS products I want and as for Aalto and Kaivo, the interfaces drive me up a wall. Probably the worst I've seen of any VST out there and that's saying something.pdxindy wrote:Chromaphone
Aalto
Kaivo
They are pretty straight forward if you read the manual.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 22876 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
You can shrug at me all you like. I totally despise the GUI on those things. It has nothing to do with reading the manual. It has to do with if I have to look at those things for more than 20 minutes I'll throw my PC out a window.V0RT3X wrote:wagtunes wrote:Thanks. I think I have all the AAS products I want and as for Aalto and Kaivo, the interfaces drive me up a wall. Probably the worst I've seen of any VST out there and that's saying something.pdxindy wrote:Chromaphone
Aalto
Kaivo
They are pretty straight forward if you read the manual.
I have to actually like looking at the synth I'm using.
Yeah, I'm funny that way.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 22876 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Well, I'm now down to 3 synths and one of them isn't Windows yet.
Oxium
Spectral
Sunrizer (waiting for Windows version)
I tried Enzyme. It sounds great. In fact, it sounds like nothing I've ever heard before. But the problem is, that GUI is a freaking nightmare. I was so disappointed in it that I even wrote to the company.
Why do synth designers make GUIs that are so damn obnoxious and unreadable? The font is so light and the font type is so squiggly that I can't make out what anything is. So the only thing I can do is hit Randomize and pray I get a decent sound outside of using the presets.
So Enzyme is out, which is a shame because that is one bad-ass sounding synth.
Oxium
Spectral
Sunrizer (waiting for Windows version)
I tried Enzyme. It sounds great. In fact, it sounds like nothing I've ever heard before. But the problem is, that GUI is a freaking nightmare. I was so disappointed in it that I even wrote to the company.
Why do synth designers make GUIs that are so damn obnoxious and unreadable? The font is so light and the font type is so squiggly that I can't make out what anything is. So the only thing I can do is hit Randomize and pray I get a decent sound outside of using the presets.
So Enzyme is out, which is a shame because that is one bad-ass sounding synth.
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- KVRian
- 991 posts since 9 Feb, 2013 from dallas tx
Well as the first to mention spectral here in this thread, I am happy you liked it.
Here are some nice demos from Simon at patch pool that he created for spectral, if you can design sounds as nice as these I will be very impressed. I think these are top notch sounds and these make me want to get spectral.
http://www.patchpool.de/spectral_rays.html
http://www.patchpool.de/spectral_excursions.html
Here are some nice demos from Simon at patch pool that he created for spectral, if you can design sounds as nice as these I will be very impressed. I think these are top notch sounds and these make me want to get spectral.
http://www.patchpool.de/spectral_rays.html
http://www.patchpool.de/spectral_excursions.html
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- KVRAF
- 2236 posts since 25 Dec, 2005
Fartmaker and 4STEPannoyer.
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- KVRian
- 991 posts since 9 Feb, 2013 from dallas tx
