KVR Audio

xander · Post by **xander** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:12 am

Kriminal wrote:
gol wrote:ok ok, mixing engines are highly complex, FL's mixing engine took us over 12 years to develop & is the best you'll find. If you want your VSTi's to sound the best, they will in FL Studio. Every day FL's mixing engine is tested by trained blind monkeys who can detect the slightest imperfections in the audio signal.

(really, do I care, come on give me your money now)

That made me spit my roll up out

See, i knew these guys had a sense of humour (you got to, to call a music app after a breakfast cereal)

I'm an FLS fan for sure these days, but I think Imageline went WAY TOO FAR in seeking an "innocent sounding name" - when going from being a pornographic game maker to a VST host dev...

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:12 pm

After all the hype around here about fruity loops I gave the demo a try and found it to be,,well,,fruity!
That things nothing more than a computer game with the dots fighting the dashes.
People are buying Reason and struggling to play a chord in matrix when theres a perfectly good multitracker for live play.
I'd rather listen to a poorly written song that the artist a least played instead of charting their life on a calender,,maybe thats why most of these songs sound like nothin more than a million arpeggios welded together.
People should try performing more instead of seeing what the machine does ...

Jaeson Merrill · Post by **Jaeson Merrill** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:17 pm

.... perhaps if you knew how to use the tools, it wouldnt sound like a machine...

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:21 pm

Jaeson_Merrill wrote:.... perhaps if you knew how to use the tools, it wouldnt sound like a machine...

Exactly

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:27 pm

vtx wrote:After all the hype around here about fruity loops I gave the demo a try and found it to be,,well,,fruity!
That things nothing more than a computer game with the dots fighting the dashes.
People are buying Reason and struggling to play a chord in matrix when theres a perfectly good multitracker for live play.
I'd rather listen to a poorly written song that the artist a least played instead of charting their life on a calender,,maybe thats why most of these songs sound like nothin more than a million arpeggios welded together.
People should try performing more instead of seeing what the machine does ...

Give me a break, FL is what you make of it, I have been playing guitar for 32 years and 362 days. I play my keyboard and bass parts live. I do program my drums using the FL pianoroll and vsampler, a more intense drum machine that's all. I do record my synth parts live into fl as well as the bass. I do admit when it comes time to record live external instruments (vox, guitar, hard synths I own) I use AA for recording the audio....

Sounds like you took one look at the step sequencer and made generalized statements which is never good. Go back and give it a try again, if you still don't think you can be openly and freely creative with FL then I would suggest it's not the software but the artist.

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:31 pm

what hink said ...

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:41 pm

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:44 pm

I wish I were a youngster...

actually I really don't, I like mid 40 but 50 is too damn close.

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:55 pm

50's not so bad..I get to go to bed way earlier..

Wopelka · Post by **Wopelka** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:57 pm

vtx, i think you need to relax

go, play some computer games, and then get back to FL Studio and try to learn how you can do beautiful music with just a mouse and a bit of patience.

and if you prefer your guitar that's fine, too.

there are many ways to create good music, and as it's been said a million times before: that's not the instrument but the musician who makes good or bad music.

peace

Mirabebe · Post by **Mirabebe** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:13 pm

Personally i don't have an issue with an artist who can't play a single instrument, doesn't read notes and can't sing worth a shit.

If this person is able to write music that i like by mousing notes one by one into a sequencer until it sounds good to him, blindly tweaking synth knobs until he likes the timbre, and pitchshifts his vocals until they pass - and i listen to it and i enjoy it - i could care less for anyone's opinion about what "real music" is and how it should be written.

Rick1114 · Post by **Rick1114** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:39 pm

I checked out FL too after reading this. I like the playlist, recording parts on the fly, the piano roll. (now I know where P5 got theirs from).

WRT drum programming, I noticed some use the step sequencer and samples, while others use their drum machine of choice with the piano roll. If you go the 2nd route, do you pretty much bypass the step-sequencer? Just wondering about the workflow and if you have to set-up a drum map or anything like that.

smart · Post by **smart** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:43 pm

I hard;y ever use the step sequencer to be honest. I program all my drum tracks into pianoroll.

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:50 pm

never use the step sequencer ...
100% pianoroll ...
i

the FL pianoroll ...

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:05 pm

normal wrote:never use the step sequencer ...
100% pianoroll ...
i the FL pianoroll ...

me too, I just wish you could reach the channel settings window from th PR.

welcome to the world of FL...