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GrokSynth · Post by **GrokSynth** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:12 pm

I came back to this today with some ideas & I am finding that stuck notes are pretty easy to achieve with this synth.

Mainly, plucky/percussive sounds with a quick decay overall seem to be fine. Pads, however, appear to last a bit longer than one would hope; even after the daw is stopped.

Can anyone confirm that this is a bug, or perhaps tell me how to make the madness stop?

I like the synth very much (and thought I knew something about FM and found that I was sadly mistaken). It is really just these stuck notes that are keeping me from quitting my job to play with Dexed every day.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:27 pm

GrokSynth wrote:I came back to this today with some ideas & I am finding that stuck notes are pretty easy to achieve with this synth.

Mainly, plucky/percussive sounds with a quick decay overall seem to be fine. Pads, however, appear to last a bit longer than one would hope; even after the daw is stopped.

Can anyone confirm that this is a bug, or perhaps tell me how to make the madness stop?

I like the synth very much (and thought I knew something about FM and found that I was sadly mistaken). It is really just these stuck notes that are keeping me from quitting my job to play with Dexed every day.

It's probably your MIDI in assignments. Change each instance to a single channel instead of all unless you've already done this. That's the problem I have with many synths when I use "All MIDI Inputs."

That should do it.

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:30 pm

GrokSynth wrote:I came back to this today with some ideas & I am finding that stuck notes are pretty easy to achieve with this synth.

Mainly, plucky/percussive sounds with a quick decay overall seem to be fine. Pads, however, appear to last a bit longer than one would hope; even after the daw is stopped.

Can anyone confirm that this is a bug, or perhaps tell me how to make the madness stop?

I like the synth very much (and thought I knew something about FM and found that I was sadly mistaken). It is really just these stuck notes that are keeping me from quitting my job to play with Dexed every day.

I wonder... have you set a very long release time (maybe the lowest setting is [nearly] infinite)? And/or the feedback is at the highest setting? The envelopes are wacky; it took me a while to figure them out, try changing the level of the release point (max/min).

I had no problems with stuck notes at all, however, so I wonder if it's related to the patch. I did manage to easily completely crash DEXED by loading random files for banks (someone suggested this earlier in the thread; after the first couple crashes that forced a DAW restart, I gave up on this for generating random sounds). So, I'm not sure if you were loading banks that maybe cause issues or random files...

Besides that, maybe share some patches that seem to be the biggest offenders and someone can try to see if anything sticks out?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:33 pm

z.prime wrote:
GrokSynth wrote:I came back to this today with some ideas & I am finding that stuck notes are pretty easy to achieve with this synth.

Mainly, plucky/percussive sounds with a quick decay overall seem to be fine. Pads, however, appear to last a bit longer than one would hope; even after the daw is stopped.

Can anyone confirm that this is a bug, or perhaps tell me how to make the madness stop?

I like the synth very much (and thought I knew something about FM and found that I was sadly mistaken). It is really just these stuck notes that are keeping me from quitting my job to play with Dexed every day.
I wonder... have you set a very long release time (maybe the lowest setting is [nearly] infinite)? And/or the feedback is at the highest setting? The envelopes are wacky; it took me a while to figure them out, try changing the level of the release point (max/min).

I had no problems with stuck notes at all, however, so I wonder if it's related to the patch. I did manage to easily completely crash DEXED by loading random files for banks (someone suggested this earlier in the thread; after the first couple crashes that forced a DAW restart, I gave up on this for generating random sounds). So, I'm not sure if you were loading banks that maybe cause issues or random files...

Besides that, maybe share some patches that seem to be the biggest offenders and someone can try to see if anything sticks out?

Yeah, I didn't think of that. If you program a patch and set L4 to anything other than zero, you're going to get infinite notes. Make sure all L4s are zero.

GrokSynth · Post by **GrokSynth** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 1:45 pm

z.prime and wagtunes - thank you for that. It has only happened on pad-like sounds, though L4 is always on 0. Having said that, I may have moved that and pressed play at one point, which could have been the culprit.

Still working to see if I can achieve what I (think I) want out of this today. Thank you very much.

MTLE · Post by **MTLE** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 2:21 pm

We keep it experimental ...

Symphonic Indubstrial would be the description for this new piece of my series.

"Themes from Mindwalk" is a series of new tracks based on one of my old Mods from 1996. The original "Mindwalk" track contanis some melodies I want to rearrange to separate songs.
This is Part 4 / 12. All parts will be done in One Synth Challenge 2015

DAWs (so far)
ProTracker (1996 - original Sample based Track)
OpenMPT (2013 - Converting Amiga Mod to Midi),
Reaper (now - complete new Track based on taken melody line(s))

37 instances of Dexed

Used Plugins

DAW:
ReaEQ, ReaGate, ReaComp, ReaSurround, ReaVerb, bassmanager, delay_pong, midi_transpose

3rd Party:
TAL Dub Delay, TAL Dub III, TAL Filter 2 , Tal Reverb II, epicVerb, MSED, Limiter No6, AirCiter, PpDelay

Master:
ReaEQ, TLs Maximizer, ReaXComp, AnSpec, MSED, SPAN, masterlimiter, rbj12eq-teej, np1136peaklimiter, D2, gfxscope

Enjoy!

https://soundcloud.com/mtle-1/mtle-them ... alk-part-4

GrokSynth · Post by **GrokSynth** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:01 am

Here is mine....

Seven Small Angels

Made with:
25 Instances of DEXED.
Ableton Live Compressor, Reverb, AutoFilter, Saturator, Arpeggiator, EQ8
Valhalla Freq Echo (free echo plugin)

https://soundcloud.com/groksynth/groksy ... all-angels

Updated to add in two forgotten plugs that I forgot in my rush to sleep.
Updated a second time to add that I used EQ8 a bunch of times.

mmoncur · Post by **mmoncur** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:07 am

Here is my entry. I thought I'd finish early for once, although I will probably re-upload a few times with mixing/mastering tweaks before the deadline. Feedback is welcome!

I originally thought there was no way to do my usual EDM nonsense with this synth, so I tried to make something kind of retro befitting the DX7. Later it evolved, as all of my tracks do, into a sort of mid-90s epic trance sound, but lots of the retro stuff still shows. Actually it sounds a lot like some of the music I made in the 80s, although I couldn't afford a DX7 at the time...

While DEXED was frustrating to use at times, I've been surprised how good some of the sounds were, and the CPU usage was so low I didn't have to freeze any tracks! I'll be using DEXED in many future tracks, although probably not 34 times again.

mmoncur - Hexed

Made in Ableton Live 9.2b4
34 instances of DEXED
(Mostly presets found online; Thanks to Mehum for kick and hihat sounds)
Ableton built-in effects only: EQ8 x 27, Saturator x 13, Reverb x 12, Compressor x 11, Simple Delay x 5, Ping-pong Delay x 1
Mastering chain FX, all built-in: Multiband Dynamics x 3, Limiter x 4, EQ8 x 1, Compressor x 2

https://soundcloud.com/starling-studios ... exed-osc74

1wob2many · Post by **1wob2many** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:51 am

Here's the first video from Computer Music's feature on FM synthesis:

doctorbob · Post by **doctorbob** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:26 pm

Hey all, forgot to mention that the synth player in my OSC 73 track escaped and re-appeared in my OSC 74 track, all funked out

dB

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:27 pm

doctorbob wrote:Hey all, forgot to mention that the synth player in my OSC 73 track escaped and re-appeared in my OSC 74 track, all funked out

Those darn mushrooms...

GrokSynth · Post by **GrokSynth** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:34 pm

I updated my soundcloud song thingy as one of the instruments appears to have been WAY TOO LOUD.

That is not too say that everything else sounded good or even alright, but I did notice one thing wrong and tried to fix it. One step at a time...

(Edit: Actually, I just listened to it again and it is still WAY TOO LOUD. Meh. I will hopefully have time this weekend to *try* to fix it...again.

)

Anyway, I am attaching the patch bank I made for this in-case anyone has any interest.

Dexed-GrokBank.syx.zip

ontrackp · Post by **ontrackp** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:25 am

My entry this month is called "Night Out 1983", and it's kind of a narrative of a typical night out in 1983. Some of the older members here may remember those good old days. A typical Saturday night out in 1983 would start upbeat and hopeful, then get crazy at a dance club, and finally transition into a weird, often hard to remember conclusion. 1983 was also the year I got a DX7 and using DEXED definitely brought back fond memories of spending thousands of hours trying to program useful sounds one parameter at a time using the 2 line backlit LCD display.

https://soundcloud.com/ontrackp/ontrack ... out-osc-74

27 instances of DEXED. Some patches taken from the million or so available on-line, very tweaked and about half original from the INIT patch. Logic Pro X EQ, compressor, reverb, delays across various channels, and adaptive limiter on the mix.

Enjoy!

mmoncur · Post by **mmoncur** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:15 am

I made some minor mixing changes to my track. In particular the kick drums were way too loud. Hopefully it will sound a bit better on my car stereo now...

https://soundcloud.com/starling-studios ... exed-osc74

H-man · Post by **H-man** » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:28 am

mmoncur wrote:Hopefully it will sound a bit better on my car stereo now...

Interesting, I was just thinking about car stereos/car studios earlier today

What type of system do you have?

Also, I found that you can test the sound of your track without having to go for a drive ...saves on petrol

See here. Pretty sure it's free:

http://asia-pacific-india.beyerdynamic. ... al-studio/

One Synth Challenge #74: DEXED (Jasinski Wins!)