Waldorf Nave VST version at thomann.de

[Arcvidean]

Nave doesn't show up in Cubase 6.5 for me, maybe it doesn't work in XP. The system requirements say 7 or 8 but sometimes they work in XP sometimes they don't, if they don't they usually won't install though. I upgraded to Waldorf Edition 2 and updated PPG Wave 3.V recently which works fine in XP so I assumed Nave would.

FWIW it seems to run properly on my (both quite old...) Desktop PC and notebook that both use Windows 7 64-bit. Hosts i used for testing are: Cubase Pro 8.0.10 64-bit, Cubase 7.5.40 64-bit, Cubase 7.5.40 32-bit, Live 9.1.7 64-bit, Live 9.1.7 32-bit, Studio One 2.6.5 64-bit, Reaper 4.77 64-bit, Bitwig Studio 1.1.7 and also Pro Tools 11.3.1 (64-bit AAX plugin).

There were quite a lot of testers for the Nave plugin AFAIK but i am not sure if someone used a combination of Windows XP and Cubase 6.5.

Are you sure that everything including the eLicenser software and the license/activation is installed properly?

I think I have tried and it doesn't work on XP. I have to check again, but since the requirements mention Windows 7, there isn't much to complain about

It probably has something to do with the libraries used for programming.

Fair enough, I'm not complaining. Thanks anyway.

Arcvidean.

[MillerSam]

Hi Rolf, are full licenses for Nave going to be up on the shop soon?

I got the information from Stefan (Waldorf Music) that Nave will coming after Musikmesse. They can't release it because all their stuff is on Musikmesse

[chk071]

Just noodled with it a couple of hours. Amazing synth, and i really like the enhanced wavetable functions. What i miss a bit is the sub oscillators for every oscillator from Largo. Also the synth architecture is a thing you got to get used to. But if anyone needed an example that CPU consumption =/ sound quality, then it's this. Sounds splendid, and hardly a CPU hit at all. Really considering buying it when it goes on sale.

[KingTuck]

Same. Seems like a nice synth. I'm down for it, hoping it comes up soon!

[temporubato]

Do i need a dongle for the demo? No evaluation possible... "no valid license found or Nave not activated".

Did you request an evluation license or did you to try to use it use it without?

The download is identical for the full version, Beta version and demo, just the licenses are different.

Should be possible to use this with both the USB eLicenser and soft eLicenser (while i am always using the USB dongle here without problems since several years).

I any case you will have to install the latest eLicenser software (installer for taht should be included with the Nave installer). The license also has to be activated which usually is the only time when you need an internet connection to use it (at least it is like taht wit hthe USB dongle).
Another advantage of the dongle is that you could do the activation procedure on another computer and then move the dongle to your production computer.

Latest eLicenser software is available here:
http://www.elicenser.net/en/latest_downloads.html

This is from the Steinberg website about how to install license with the a soft eLicenser :
https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/pr ... enser.html
Here is a video from Steinberg:

UPDATE:
This is written in the Readme file that is provided with the Nave installer:

The “eLicenser Control Center” installation will start automatically after Nave has been installed. You can deselect this option in the following dialogs, but it is recommended to run it even if an eLicenser is already installed, as it will update the eLicenser database.

You can choose if you want to store the license on a USB dongle or your hard disk. The license can be transferred from disk to a dongle or vice versa afterwards.

If you use the disk drive for storing the license, please be aware that formatting or damaging of the drive can cause permanent loss of your license. It is good practice to move your license to a USB dongle before intentional erasure of your hard drive.

After installation, please open the “eLicenser Control Center” Application and enter the activation code for Nave.

Please keep a copy of the activation code together with a proof of purchase for the unlikely case your license gets lost.

Hi

I can confirm that the Nave license can be move in both directions between soft-eLicenser and USB dongle. While this is possible for Nave, it may not be possible for other products using the eLC system. Some expert told me that for ex. for the Cubase license it is not possible and that might be the reason why Steinberg wrote that text.

Cheers
Rolf

[temporubato]

Just noodled with it a couple of hours. Amazing synth, and i really like the enhanced wavetable functions. What i miss a bit is the sub oscillators for every oscillator from Largo. Also the synth architecture is a thing you got to get used to. But if anyone needed an example that CPU consumption =/ sound quality, then it's this. Sounds splendid, and hardly a CPU hit at all. Really considering buying it when it goes on sale.

Hi

nice to hear. Nave isn't perfect, but we tried to put some good stuff in. Some beta user made a track with running 20 Nave instances with ease. Of course, this all depends on what you do and which HW you are using. But right, Nave doesn't eat your CPU.

Cheers
Rolf

[Lotuzia]

Just noodled with it a couple of hours. Amazing synth, and i really like the enhanced wavetable functions. What i miss a bit is the sub oscillators for every oscillator from Largo. Also the synth architecture is a thing you got to get used to. But if anyone needed an example that CPU consumption =/ sound quality, then it's this. Sounds splendid, and hardly a CPU hit at all. Really considering buying it when it goes on sale.

Hi

nice to hear. Nave isn't perfect, but we tried to put some good stuff in. Some beta user made a track with running 20 Nave instances with ease. Of course, this all depends on what you do and which HW you are using. But right, Nave doesn't eat your CPU.

Cheers
Rolf

Nave is really easy on the CPU for most patches. Very efficient. GUI is wel organised, so it's easy to tweak or design something from scratch.

[EnGee]

Oh wow! This is a BIG WINNER!!!

How could they do it?! It is impossible to hear such quality with such low cpu usage!! I couldn't believe my eyes really when I see the cpu usage! Wow, this is a masterpiece not only in sound but in "coding". Is it C++?! I can't believe that! It must by assembly! Or Binary

Great and generous period for the demo. I just spent 20 mins or so, I'm so mean with this synth that I don't want to spend more than one hour a day Well, definitely I will buy it. This is a must buy. So till the end of 100 hours I might be able to save for it

[Albert.VST]

How could they do it?! It is impossible to hear such quality with such low cpu usage!!

Maybe because initially it was developed for iPad, and that doesn't have a 6 core i7 CPU or anything near to that....
So very efficient maybe, and if they ported that to VSTi this could be the result.

[EvilDragon]

^^ Precisely that.

[chk071]

So till the end of 100 hours I might be able to save for it

It even says 1.000 hours in the eLicenser control center here. Maybe it was a typo, and someone forgot a digit.

[maximoog]

@Rolf,

I thought Nave costs 149,00 €? On the Waldorf website is 156,00€ .

Please reconsider the price again.

Ten times the Ipad version just can not be.

The excuse that you can open several instances , I do not accept . 99,00 € would be ok , but nothing more.

[chk071]

It's 149€ on Thomann.de. And again, this is PC software, not an iPad app. Not defending anything, as i will wait for a sale too, but you can't compare iPad to PC software, it's a totally different market. Medical technology is a hundred times more expensive than home entertainment technology too, because it's a different market, even if the technology is almost the same. Especially as the one gets sold 100 times, and the other one million times.

[Spitfire31]

On http://www.thomann.de/se/search_dir.html?bf=&sw=nave it's 148€, and that's incl. Swedish VAT at 25%.

I excpect it'll be discounted by the usual suspects, but I agree that the price discrepancy between the iPad and the native versions is rather upsetting.

/Joachim

[maximoog]

@chk071,

Sorry, but in this case you can compare it to.

The VSTi version and the iPad version are absolutely identical.