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el-bo (formerly ebow) · Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:09 pm

how do you do it ??

have you already composed the piece with a theme, and therefore a title, in mind ??

online random title generator ??

some random quote from a book that stands out ??

Mariosprt · Post by **Mariosprt** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:24 pm

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:have you already composed the piece with a theme, and therefore a title, in mind ??

Nope

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:online random title generator ??

Too lame

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:some random quote from a book that stands out ??

Ah... whenever I'm reading a book and I find a nice sentence, two words are enough for me really, I always note it down on my iPhone so that when I need a track name I just have to browse the list...

[edit: sci-fi books are great sources of track names

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el-bo (formerly ebow) · Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:30 pm

Mariosprt wrote:Ah... whenever I'm reading a book and I find a nice sentence, two words are enough for me really, I always note it down on my iPhone so that when I need a track name I just have to browse the list...

[edit: sci-fi books are great sources of track names ]

i like that idea, although i don't read so much fiction these days. good reason to start again (that, and my new kindle paperwhite)

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:37 pm

People will probably say I'm bullshitting, but I get very mild synaesthasia (f**k it, I'm not looking up how to spell it), so certain sounds will trigger certain made up words or phrases in my mind. I use that

Failing that, there's often a story in my music, no matter how personal to me, and if so, I use something connected to the theme of it.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:43 pm

Doo-ba-doo-ba-di-doo-doo-ba-doo-ba-di-da-doo-dibbi-dubba-di-doo!

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:46 pm

to be honest i dont know, usually just comes to me from somewhere out there, dont have a standard way of doing it.
i do like trying to occasionally bastardise a phrase to look clever but i rarely look clever

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:48 pm

I'd be careful with random quotes out of books because you could get problems with the copyright holder!

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:27 pm

Sendy wrote:People will probably say I'm bullshitting, but I get very mild synaesthasia (f**k it, I'm not looking up how to spell it), so certain sounds will trigger certain made up words or phrases in my mind. I use that

Failing that, there's often a story in my music, no matter how personal to me, and if so, I use something connected to the theme of it.

thanks

i do get a sense from other of your posts that you are more connected (heart over brain) with your music process than many. so it doesn't surprise me that you are storytelling without words

apropos of my other recent thread, i am trying to avoid the external influences that have me second-guessing my decisions, and shooting for technique over feeling. i used to be able to write music, as opposed to constructing it. here's to a welcome return

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:28 pm

vurt wrote:i do like trying to occasionally bastardise a phrase to look clever but i rarely look clever

i'm the same. i like word-play, but with song titles it always feels so contrived

el-bo (formerly ebow) · Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:30 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:I'd be careful with random quotes out of books because you could get problems with the copyright holder!

well my next choon will be called "careful holder", so f**kin' sue me

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:21 pm

Usually the catchy title is the first thing that comes to my mind, only then start to work on the music. Music reflects the theme just like lyrics, I threat lyrics just like another possible, but not obligatory instrument. The tune needs to have message and meaning anywya, just expressed in musical forms and sounds.

I fact I have quite a long list of ideas for future tracks and they are mostly described by the title. I need to have strong definition of what the track is going to be about. The downside is that I often fail when it comes to concept realization

I gave up stricly following "ideas" and just try random things and see where they go.

chaosWyrM · Post by **chaosWyrM** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:52 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:I'd be careful with random quotes out of books because you could get problems with the copyright holder!

no...you couldnt.

while theoretically possible, its practically impossible.

so called "short phrases" are quite difficult to sue over indeed.

in order to loose a case like this you would have to fail all 4 of the following defenses:

copyright doesn’t protect the copied phrases,
even if the phrases are copyrighted, the borrowing is too small (or de minimis) to matter,
even if the phrases are copyrighted, the two works are not substantially similar,
even if the phrases are copyrighted, the borrowing is excused by the fair use or parody defense.

in the case of a song using quotes from books #3 is nearly impossible to fail.

this is all in addition to the fact that you can title your artistic works anything you want...even other already well known works.

i could for instance name my next album dark side of the moon and no one could sue over it.

the odds that anyone would ever care that you used a line from a book as a song title are positively miniscule.

the odds that someone would sue over it are an incredibly small fraction of that

and the odds of them wining their case are an even smaller tiny tiny fraction of that.

i really wish people would stop being copyright police.

its your song...call it whatever you want.

chaosWyrM · Post by **chaosWyrM** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:02 pm

anyway...as an answer to the ops question:

none of my music has lyrics.

i have many ways that i come up with titles. the usual one though is that at some point during the creation of the track...something just clicks. i get some kind of image in my mind based how the track makes me feel and i base the title off of that.

sometimes i go into it with the purpose of eliciting a specific feel or mood that matches the feel or mood i experience from phrases or ideas in books ive read or movies ive seen, and in those cases i use the phrase or idea as the title.

:edit:

i forgot to mention that some titles i use have a very specific meaning to me that no one (or maybe a few personal friends) would ever know about, kind of like a hidden message that only the people its intended for would notice.

elassi · Post by **elassi** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:10 pm

The title is always a feeling/idea I have during the song creation (can be at any time, either start, middle or end).

But I try to polish it later by replacing with better/more interesting words or a neologism if possible (I LOVE neologisms).

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:21 pm

If I come across or think up phrases I like, I make a note. Though often I don't bother to check my list anyway.

Some of my songs or albums have intentional themes, which makes naming them easier. And sometimes they acquire themes partway through or when I'm done based on impressions they give me when I'm listening.

Sometimes I name them after samples in the song in an obvious or not-so-obvious way.

Sometimes the stupid, almost random names I use when saving the experimental beginnings of a track or a loop wind up inspiring or outright becoming the final track name.

naming choons in the absence of lyrics