KVR Audio

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Thu May 07, 2015 5:05 pm

I know.
But Harmor does not have any audio filters. Its filters are influencing the partials directly.
They sound totally different to conventional filters.

JMC · Post by **JMC** » Fri May 08, 2015 4:55 pm

Teksonik wrote:Yes downside. As an existing FL user you have no value to IL since you've already paid for the product. Free means nothing if an update has no value.

It may come as a surprise but we make about half of our turnover
selling plugins & content to our existing customers so it's in our best
interest to keep those customers on-board & happy.

From an economical POV & as owner of Image-Line I'd give my
right arm to have every possible feature request implemented
(I'd get a new bionic arm with the income

) but that's just not
possible.

Regardless of "Homer car"-syndrome & the technical issues some
of the feature requests entail most of our developers already
work 7/7 trying to get our software working on every possible
machine & babysitting every possible plugin out there.

This said I really hope we can get features like multiple time
signatures and other requests implemented in a later update.

Have a nice weekend!

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Fri May 08, 2015 6:54 pm

On the subject of the mixer:

I'm really liking the docking and the separators. However, it would be much easier to see if the white fader caps were also coloured by the selection - or the choice to load in custom controls made using the ControlCreator via a right click menu option.

I do like the new organisation of plugins. Took a second to adjust to but will save a lot of time in future.

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Fri May 08, 2015 8:21 pm

Teksonik wrote:Custom keyboard shortcuts ? In FL ? That's called a "feature request" good luck getting them to listen.......

Once upon a time gol changed the F5/F6 keybindings from opening the Playlist/Step Sequencer to something else. I remember suggesting that that was a bad idea, and having IL start a poll about whether this should be reverted back to the way it was.
No "feature request", but it shows that IL does listen to the customers if the requested feature makes sense.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri May 08, 2015 8:35 pm

sQeetz wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Custom keyboard shortcuts ? In FL ? That's called a "feature request" good luck getting them to listen.......
Once upon a time gol changed the F5/F6 keybindings from opening the Playlist/Step Sequencer to something else. I remember suggesting that that was a bad idea, and having IL start a poll about whether this should be reverted back to the way it was.
No "feature request", but it shows that IL does listen to the customers if the requested feature makes sense.

I'm afraid listening to their customers for some people equals to say how high if you're asked to jump.

I feel like it's kind of a result of the ability to comment on everything on the internet. Imagine how it used to be back in the days where you had no possibility at all to communicate with the dev's or the companies, apart from a phone number. And still there were probably less phone calls than there are now. Actually for me it's hilarious, and hardly believable that you have dev's browsing these forums, and even replying, or reacting on feature requests, or user feedback or suggestions. I mean how much more grand can it get? It's paradise almost.

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:30 pm

chk071 wrote:
sQeetz wrote:
Teksonik wrote:Custom keyboard shortcuts ? In FL ? That's called a "feature request" good luck getting them to listen.......
Once upon a time gol changed the F5/F6 keybindings from opening the Playlist/Step Sequencer to something else. I remember suggesting that that was a bad idea, and having IL start a poll about whether this should be reverted back to the way it was.
No "feature request", but it shows that IL does listen to the customers if the requested feature makes sense.
I'm afraid listening to their customers for some people equals to say how high if you're asked to jump. I feel like it's kind of a result of the ability to comment on everything on the internet. Imagine how it used to be back in the days where you had no possibility at all to communicate with the dev's or the companies, apart from a phone number. And still there were probably less phone calls than there are now. Actually for me it's hilarious, and hardly believable that you have dev's browsing these forums, and even replying, or reacting on feature requests, or user feedback or suggestions. I mean how much more grand can it get? It's paradise almost.

Absolutely. Some people can get too precious about ideas they have and then take it personally if an idea isn't implemented. I am pretty sure that ImageLine has an idea list longer than any user has compiled and they will be working towards improving the concepts already there. Also noting that one can't just make something happen - it has to work within the framework of the program as it is.

Honestly, I can't believe the amount of stick ImageLine is getting for writing one of the most popular DAWs available. I've been getting free updates for over a decade and it rocks. FL Studio is my go-to DAW for sound design and mixing because I find it fast and intuitive.

Starting to sound too much like a fan-boy. You can find me moderating on FLipside forums: http://www.theflipsideforum.com

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:32 pm

Unaspected wrote:Honestly, I can't believe the amount of stick ImageLine is getting for writing one of the most popular DAWs available.

It's BECAUSE of that. People expect it to be perfect because it is so popular.
"How can so many people be using it unaware of its shortcomings?"
...well... because nobody cares about them. Except the 0.% who do.

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:47 pm

sQeetz wrote:
Unaspected wrote:Honestly, I can't believe the amount of stick ImageLine is getting for writing one of the most popular DAWs available.
It's BECAUSE of that. People expect it to be perfect because it is so popular.
"How can so many people be using it unaware of its shortcomings?"
...well... because nobody cares about them. Except the 0.% who do.

Hehe. That's a good point.

Everyone get back to making music/noise!

trusampler · Post by **trusampler** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:56 pm

Just curious, is it possible to record linear yet in Fl studio 12? like in a typical daw where u load a vst instrument, arm the track and go, vs. recording a pattern then placing it in a playlist etc..

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Fri May 08, 2015 10:04 pm

Unaspected wrote:Everyone get back to making music/noise!

Agreed

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Fri May 08, 2015 10:06 pm

basic audio wrote: I remember the good 'ol days when you thought a peak limiter and sidechain compression were the exact same thing.

I don't remember saying that, but I certainly wrote, and still do, that people who mainly use sidechain compression for -ducking-, can do the same thing using compression/limiting on a single track, as long as the signal used for ducking is also audible (which it generally is, often the ducker is the kick that you hear).

memyselfandus · Post by **memyselfandus** » Fri May 08, 2015 10:37 pm

memyselfandus wrote:
tony tony chopper wrote:
Andywanders wrote: The man plainly knows nothing about music theory
yeah, absolutely nothing. But isn't that also the case of many famous musicians?

Ask yourself if our app would have had much success if we had put all that pointless theory in the face of users, & if newcomers really care about it, seeing that you can make good music without knowing how to read a score sheet.
In fact, it's even probable that not being able to read a score has become the norm for a musician, today.
People with NO musical knowledge can use a sequencer with multiple and odd time signatures with ease. no musical knowledge required. "if" the grid lines up. the way you currently have it set up will confuse people if they want to experiment because the metronome won't click properly and the grid gets all outa wack.

By adding multiple time signatures you avoid having users getting confused as to why everything gets out of wack. saving customer support time. If it's not possible to add then that's ok. if it IS and it's not a Huge PITA to implement.. then let's figure it out.

Experimentation in FL Studio with time signatures leads to confusion when it shouldn't

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Sat May 09, 2015 7:00 am

sQeetz wrote:
Unaspected wrote:Honestly, I can't believe the amount of stick ImageLine is getting for writing one of the most popular DAWs available.
It's BECAUSE of that. People expect it to be perfect because it is so popular.
"How can so many people be using it unaware of its shortcomings?"
...well... because nobody cares about them. Except the 0.% who do.

No, it has absolutely nothing to do with that. They get the stick because they still do many of the most simplest and basic things wrong that have been figured out in other DAW's long time ago. Just look at the new mixer and compare it to mixers in every other DAW - it's still is way inferior because it lacks some very elementary things. I'm actually quite surprised that they did no functional improvements alongside the GUI makeover.
Or even worse, they often lack some of the very basic things. And instead of trying to improve they most often point to cumbersome time wasting workarounds as an excuse for not implementing something.

FL Studio is not the only DAW in the world. There are plenty of people who actually use several and have a good baseline for comparison.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat May 09, 2015 7:07 am

@ memyselfandus: Are you really quoted your own post not once but twice?

cranium · Post by **cranium** » Sat May 09, 2015 9:30 am

murnau wrote:@ memyselfandus: Are you really quoted your own post not once but twice?

Don't forget the fact that he might be travelling between parallel universes.

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