FL Studio 12 Released!

[trimph1]

@trimph1
My bad. Was not my day today. I tried my best though.

Don't worry.

The time signatures are quite useful.

[highkoo]

sjm and gol are the only posters I have consistently understood in these last few pages.

No one cares about what you do comprehend or not. In other words: just piss off.

Uh oh.

[She Changed Her Mind]

sjm and gol are the only posters I have consistently understood in these last few pages.

No one cares about what you do comprehend or not. In other words: just piss off.

Uh oh.

Just kill yourself and then I come piss on your grave. And let your family be raped and die of arse cancer. There!

[She Changed Her Mind]

PS this forum hasn't impressed me at all. I must say. Such a shame

[She Changed Her Mind]

Now all go f**k yourself. The daily chores. You can do it. It's just another day for you. That's right.

[murnau]

@ She Changed Her Mind: Are you begging for a ban?

[trimph1]

Must be a bad day again...

oh well...it is, after all, another FL thread.

[elassi]

oh well...it is, after all, another FL thread.

This.

Funny how FL reliably triggers the most absurd phenomenons.

[murnau]

Bye bye..

[sjm]

I've been presented a video of Live accelerating, for the SAME tempo, its metronome as the time signature was changed from /4 to /8.
So would you say that Live does it wrong?

It's quite possible that Live gets it wrong too. You'd be better off understanding what a time signature is than looking for examples of other people that don't understand it. What's the point in that?

We have a BEATS per minute setting. IF a metronome is playing on the SAME BEATS as in BPM, then at 120BPM, the metronome should play 120 times per minute, PERIOD.
You just can't say that this is all wrong and that a metronome isn't playing 120 times per minute for a tempo of 120BPM, and STILL pretend that both the beats in BPM and in a metronome are the same thing. That's just plainly stupid. I don't know what's going on here, if you're serious or trolling.

To be honest gol, the troll is you, because what you are arguing is that the green and orange lines in this screenshot (representing quarter and eighth notes, beneath the actually notes in the piano roll) are the same length. Do you really believe that? That's what you are saying.



I don't know how you being dense constitutes the rest of us trolling. But feel free to explain how those two lines are the same length and how that makes perfect sense and saying that they're different lengths is confusing and silly.

[sjm]

We have a BEATS per minute setting. IF a metronome is playing on the SAME BEATS as in BPM, then at 120BPM, the metronome should play 120 times per minute, PERIOD.

Beats per minute is a misnomer. Typically a sequencer is counting off 120 crochet/quarter notes per minute when it is set to 120bpm. If you change the time signature, say to 6/8, the metronome should match the time signature. It ticks faster because it's counting off eighth notes instead. The setting is still 120bpm, but you're not counting quarter notes anymore. You're counting eighth notes; Six per measure.

^^ this, although if gol hasn't understood that the beat can be counted on different notes, and that an eighth note is half as long a quarter note after 30 pages, I think we can safely assume that binary arithmetic and counting to 10 are beyond him. You can lead a horse to water and all that.

Even my wife understands this, and she has a vague inkling of the basics of music theory from when she was at school 25 years ago. She's never played an instrument, can't read sheet music, but even she understands that an eighth note is half as long as a quarter note. She could answer the question "what happens if you switch from counting the beat on quarter notes to counting it on eighth notes" with "the number of beats doubles" without thinking about it. Because it's so bleeding obvious.

[spaceman]

@ Gol

Check this out..

120bpm

4 bars of 4/4 followed by 4 bars of 4/8.

In the first 4 bars the metronome will tick as quarters.
In the next 4 bars it will tick as eights (so it will tick faster).

Those last 4 bars last half as long in real time as the first 4.

In total, you have 16 + 8 = 24 quarters
If you had stayed in 4/4 you would have needed 6 bars to last the same amount of time.

And all that is because the tempo itself at 120bpm doesn't change.
The metronome sounds faster/slower/differently, but you're not stretching time

[spaceman]

In DAW speak, this is wrong though, because the "BPM", as in, that tempo you set in your DAW does not change at all. You're going from 4/4 to 7/8 but your tempo is still 120bpm (or whatever it was set to). So you can't say the BPM doubles. I think that's why you've been confusing the shit out of Gol.

BPM is the meta-time. It's DAW God ruler telling its timeline Universe how long time is. And his humble servants can divide as they wish. Time itself doesn't change (unless you change the tempo of course )

[tony tony chopper]

It's quite possible that Live gets it wrong too. You'd be better off understanding what a time signature is than looking for examples of other people that don't understand it. What's the point in that?

then you're disagreeing with the other guy who says that it works fine in Live

To be honest gol, the troll is you, because what you are arguing is that the green and orange lines in this screenshot (representing quarter and eighth notes, beneath the actually notes in the piano roll) are the same length. Do you really believe that? That's what you are saying.

No, what YOU are saying is that the green & orange lines are BOTH "beats", but that for the SAME "BEATS per minute" value, they will play at a DIFFERENT rate, WHILE "BEATS" in BPM is the same thing as the orange & green lines. Go explain THAT!

[tony tony chopper]

We have a BEATS per minute setting. IF a metronome is playing on the SAME BEATS as in BPM, then at 120BPM, the metronome should play 120 times per minute, PERIOD.

Beats per minute is a misnomer. T

^^ this, although if gol hasn't understood

So, I've been saying that "beats" in BPM is a different thing that "beats" in the timesig, and you've been arguing for pages that no, they're the same thing.

& now you agree with someone who TOO says that it's a misnomer?

If your tempo is 120BPM, then a beat will be 0.5sec, PERIOD. You just can't argue with this.
So when you say that the time between 2 BEATS on a grid or metronome, for 120BPM, is NOT 0.5sec, then it can only mean one thing, you're giving the same name to 2 different things, PERIOD.