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KingTuck wrote:
Apostate wrote:Hi Rolf, being able to use the close controls/blades in a split way, different for each Wave, would be extremely helpful. I found myself wishing for that function this morning.

I also don't like the resonance and cutoff being global, though you're probably aware of that.

An idea that would make Nave even more self-contained would be to add a transient enhancing effect, along with the attendant modulation capabilities.
What do you mean resonance and cutoff being global? Do you mean that you wish each Wave layer had its own filter module? A transient enhancing effect sounds kind of ridiculous to be honest. When you start getting into that territory you're getting into very complicated sound design territory that will always be better suited for separate tools/FX.

No offence Apostate, you're obviously free to wish for what you'd like and I'll make no attempt to take that away from you, but a lot of your feature requests are inarticulate and frankly, kind of silly. I think you should spend time enjoying the tools you have, learning how they work and how they differ from one another instead of spending most of your time thinking about what more you'd like in them. This is unsolicited advice, so feel free to ignore it (I offer it with no degree of arrogance or hostility), but you've seemingly impulse bought a great deal of synths lately and spend much time putting forth feature requests that are typically not very thoughtful to the design of a useful instrument. I can promise you, almost nobody (not even you) would use most of the features you're looking for.

Again, totally unsolicited, so ignore if you wish. Just my opinion. Know what you have before you decide what it's missing. :)
Dude, why would I ask for requests I wouldn't use? This is 2015, a transient shaping tool would be innovative and eminently useful...did you think before you wrote this? Or was your Mom chasing you off her computer. You sound like some jealous little kid with no ideas of his own.

Your entire reply is completely useless, hilariously presumptuous, and like a person whom has nothing positive or insightful to offer. Don't worry about what I spend time doing, try to contribute something useful, son. If you don't have anything good or useful to say, don't say it. My posts sound like someone whom cares about this instrument, and would like to see it be even better, your post sounds like someone with nothing better to do, a vent.

You have no idea how much time I've spent on this instrument, nothing about what I do for a living, you know nothing about me, son. Take you and your problems elsewhere, while the people whom know something about music and synthesizers, the people whom actually have vision, contribute worthwhile suggestions that are eminently plausible.

Wait a minute, now I feel as though I wasted my time, time that's way more important that yours. You were right, I should have ignored such an idiotic reply.
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Now I'm infected with your double post syndrome. Even this post has more to say than yours.
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:lol: ooops!
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KingTuck wrote:
Apostate wrote:Hi Rolf, being able to use the close controls/blades in a split way, different for each Wave, would be extremely helpful. I found myself wishing for that function this morning.

I also don't like the resonance and cutoff being global, though you're probably aware of that.

An idea that would make Nave even more self-contained would be to add a transient enhancing effect, along with the attendant modulation capabilities.
What do you mean resonance and cutoff being global? Do you mean that you wish each Wave layer had its own filter module?
Actually i was a bit confused about this request too.

The Nave plugin has 3 Oscs (2 Wavetable Oscs + 1 VA Osc with additional Überwave feature) and 2 Ringmod sound sources (also see in the mixer) that are all routed into a single filter. This way i do not see an option to have different Cutoff and/or Resonance settings for each oscillator.

To do this you would need a second or even third filter like with the dual filter in Waldorf Largo where you also got filter routing options at the oscillators and could use both filters in serial or parallel. Largo also offers up to 4 layers for using up to 8 different filters in one patch.

Adding a second filter to Nave could be theoretically possible but it should not be simple IMO.
While also not really simple it would be interesting to add a few more filter modes like e.g. Notch and Comb and maybe also a few more advanced and/or unique ones.
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Basically people want a Nave 2.

Nave has just been released, but kids want 2 more oscillators, one more filter, everything on wavetables modulatable, animated display, a new fx suite, etc., etc. That's just crazy!

Temporubato has said that he will continue to bring features to Nave, but expecting things of this magnitude at such an early stage actually shows how much (not much!) people know about software development.

I'll go ahead and say: hey, why not make Nave a fully modular environment that integrates each and every feature that Waldorf has implemented in their hardware and software products (instruments and effects). That would be pretty cool, huh?! Are you prepared to pay Rolf a hefty sum to do it? Can you wait several years until it's ready? A further decade before all bugs have been fixed???

Makes me wonder what 'music' these geniuses write to need all this, or what is their musical education..........

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Great post, there, mr.! :tu:

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I just want Nave to be cutting edge, the best wavetable synth there is. I'm not going to stop suggesting features, I definitely won't let people with little minds stop me. Most people here just want to pay little amounts of money for a buttload of different synths, and it's stupid in my opinion. Serum is the closest we've come to a one stop wavetable synth (in my mind and apparently most other peoples), but time and progress shouldn't just stop there. Make Nave the competitor, a viciously creative, innovatively featured competitor, and we'll benefit as the war between the two begins.

I'm all about raising the bar, either you stand on my shoulders or you get stood on.

Ready to laugh at the future idolators.
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Hi there,

no worries, I love to read all suggestions, be it the craze ones, be it the obvious ones!

We've a nice list of feature requests and from this I'll select stuff to be implemented. There are items I wanted to implement since the iPad release of Nave, and there's some recent stuff on it.

I plan to do a 1.1 update in June with some stuff. And in the following months more stuff.

But don't expect that your request will be next in line :-) There's no line, it depends on many factors what gets in next.

And please tell your friends to buy Nave! We need to pay our beers too ;-)

Cheers
Rolf
Rolf from waldorfmusic.com

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I don't really understand why a synthesizer would need a transient designer. I mean Nave already has an amp envelope and it's fast, so it can do all the things a transient designer does.

EDIT: as for feature requests, midi learn for automating parameters including the three x-y pads would be a nice addition. I mean they are really cool on the iPad, but in a vst version, as most comps don't have a touch screen, they are quite useless, unless you can use an external midi controller to modulate them.

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cpu28 wrote:I don't really understand why a synthesizer would need a transient designer. I mean Nave already has an amp envelope and it's fast, so it can do all the things a transient designer does.

EDIT: as for feature requests, midi learn for automating parameters including the three x-y pads would be a nice addition. I mean they are really cool on the iPad, but in a vst version, as most comps don't have a touch screen, they are quite useless, unless you can use an external midi controller to modulate them.
Good news, MIDI learn incl. for the xy pads is already implemented. Will come in June.

Cheers
Rolf
Rolf from waldorfmusic.com

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Will that be the Non Eric version we were promised on Musotalk ? :)

temporubato wrote:Hi there,

I plan to do a 1.1 update in June with some stuff. And in the following months more stuff.

Cheers
Rolf

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I can't help but Apostate sounds like : Well guys I bought yesterday new a car for 10000 bucks. But you know what ? Today I want a second exhaust system and of course tuned sports suspension for free. The car needs such things and I want the car to be cutting edge :-))

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Joulupukki wrote:I can't help but Apostate sounds like : Well guys I bought yesterday new a car for 10000 bucks. But you know what ? Today I want a second exhaust system and of course tuned sports suspension for free. The car needs such things and I want the car to be cutting edge :-))
:lol:

I probably do.
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Being able to automate the close controls (such as, changing the scale after a set number of bars have passed in a project) would be terrific.

Every time I open this synth I'm impressed. I put it away for a time in order to study up on my other instruments, when I came back to it I became very involved in the programming once again. Fantastic synth, and apparently destined to become even better.
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Congratulations on 1.1 Rolf, very happy to see the changes implemented, things get better and better!

I wanted to write about how much I like the onboard effects in Nave, most particularly the reverb. The effects seem to give the synth a "Waldorf character", while coming across as resolutely different from Largo. For people that like character synths, the Nave stands out in this regard, making it a great complement to others. Paucis verbis, Nave's "characterful" sound makes it as essential as any other Wavetable synth, as I personally haven't found a synth that sounds much like it, besides the obvious (other Waldorf synths).

I like it more every time I open it, and it's becoming my favorite WT synth, bar none (and I own all the greats).

I would like another matrix page though (c'mon, you didn't actually think I'd go a whole post without suggesting a new feature did you?) ;)
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