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andrew71 · Post by **andrew71** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:22 am

I'm looking for a decent filterbank effect. I've demoed both the Antares and Quad-Frohmage. The trouble is that I tried the Antares one a few months ago so it has expired and so I can't easily compare the two.

From memory I have to be honest and say I preferred the Antares filter. Even though the display is quite cluttered I was able to get some decent results with it - I particularly liked the pattern gate.

On the other hand I know that the Quad-Frohmage is well respected. I've had a play with the demo and I just don't feel as in control with it. The presets that come with it don't seem too impressive. Knowing how respected Ohmforce's products are I can't help but feel that I'm missing something with the Quad...

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:23 am

I haven't tried the Antares but I do own Quad Frohmage, which is awesome. That said if I was buying now, I would go for PSP Nitro....just to add to the confusion

putte · Post by **putte** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:23 am

i really dig the quadfrohmage ..this and psp nitro are my filters ..

putte

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:24 am

putte wrote:i really dig the quadfrohmage ..this and psp nitro are my filters ..

putte

ooh check the rich boy that can afford both

putte · Post by **putte** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:28 am

CypherOne wrote: ooh check the rich boy that can afford both

.. and i got them at a time when the nitro was 1299$, and the quadfrohmage (2nd hand) was 1199 $ ..

and before you ask: no, i didnt need to sell my mansion to get those. ha!

putte

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:29 am

putte wrote:
CypherOne wrote: ooh check the rich boy that can afford both
.. and i bought them at a time when the nitro was 1299$, and the quadfrohmage (2nd hand) was 1199 $ ..

putte

I really want Nitro, so I suppose I should be glad the price has come down so much since the time that you bought it oh wealthyschnitzelmeisterburgenschloppen.

z_old_account · Post by **z_old_account** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:30 am

There is a free one at www.obertone.com

Cheers

andrew71 · Post by **andrew71** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:30 am

Forgot about the PSP one. I tried that too...but there was something immediate about the Antares. I got into it straight away and everything seemed completely accessible. I'm peeved that I can't try the Antares one again (legally) for just a few more days...

putte · Post by **putte** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:30 am

nitro is very special to me .. like a weapon.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:31 am

I have quad, antares filter and psp nitro..

I'd go for the nitro

CypherOne · Post by **CypherOne** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:32 am

I have quad, antares filter and psp nitro..

I'd go for the nitro

more money than sense, or a secret crack-whore?

putte · Post by **putte** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:34 am

spaceman wrote:I have quad, antares filter and psp nitro..

yes, but you had to sell your spaceship in order to get those ..

putte

griels · Post by **griels** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:47 am

I'm sorry, Nitro is fantastic as an effect plugin, but as a filter QuadFrohmage beats it hands down for me. Try turning Nitro up to high resonance and hopefully you'll see what I mean. In this situation, it sounds very harsh and thin to me.

Of course, there are plenty of things that Nitro can do than QuadFrohmage can't, and which it excels at. Just not filtering, in my opinion.

My £0.02

griels · Post by **griels** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:50 am

P.S. I love the PSP sound in general... It's not a personal thing, just a technical foible about one particular feature of one plug

The filter just doesn't have that trademark PSP warmth at high resonance.

Red_Force · Post by **Red_Force** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:57 am

Some news in the pipe :

Quad Frohmage update in august with stereo processing per filter (optionnal thus). It should also come with extra presets.

This was the main grip against QF for AF users. I'd say that to make your choice, sounds is the first thing. For the rest, I think it's honest to say that QF is a bit more feature proof than AF (way more filters, can track signal to generate modulation, preset morphing and extended MIDI support amongst other key features). Also, AF makes it really tough to do some smooth manual automation (say a LP cutoff ramp up of 16 bars) because you'll hear the "step" or the automation due to the GUI implementation.

All in all in Ohm Force we see AF as a cheap colourfoul clone of QF (although it sounds OK and is probably a bit easier to get, at the cost of what we think to be 'must be there features' for a filter bank). Of course this is completely partial

OTOH Nitro is a completely different baby. As always with PSP it sounds fantastic - but unless it has changed lately it's more aimed at soft rather than hardcore sounds. Once more it's not as packed with features than QF but it's smartly design on the DSP side and it's a very nice FX.

One good reason to go for QF thus is the brand new cohmpletion offer

. The idea is that owning one Ohm Force plugin allows you to get better prices on other Ohm Force products. For instance with QF you could get €50 off on the Ohm Force Experience or even €100 if you take both at the same time. (supposing you don't allready own some of the Ohm Force Experience plugin, in which cas it would be even cheaper).

Hope that helps

Filerbank: Quad-Frohmage or Antares Filer?