KVR Audio

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:55 pm

Synth1 has unison on the oscillator level too. Just turn the det knob of oscillator 1. I think the oscillators themselves are mono though, so no control about stereo spread. And no control about detuning curve.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:02 pm

The U-he Hive synth, and Synapse Audio Dune2.

commodore · Post by **commodore** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:41 pm

Can anyone tell me if Omnisphere 2 has more JP8000 waveforms? or how it may compare to sounding like a JP8000?

thanks!

D N A · Post by **D N A** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:41 pm

JP6K

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:23 pm

commodore wrote:Can anyone tell me if Omnisphere 2 has more JP8000 waveforms? or how it may compare to sounding like a JP8000?

thanks!

Dunno about Omisphere, but Diva has a JP-8000 module, Electra2 has the JP-8000 Supersaw waveform, and there's also Sunrizer and Superwave P8. Loads of options.

fluffy_little_something · Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:11 pm

Love such pads with fine detuning of just a few waves, although I am sure that is not what supersaw meant is to sound like

https://app.box.com/s/cc5sa71w56w5z19h0ng0pi1fqqm8oo7d

Sorry for the big file, but with a lower sampling rate the fine rasping got lost a bit

Actually, I only hear it well on headphones. Maybe my speakers just suck

And the Box preview doesn't help, either, it seems to deteriorate the sound... Does any of those upload services not do that?

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:30 pm

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fluffy_little_something wrote:Love such pads with fine detuning of just a few waves, although I am sure that is not what supersaw meant is to sound like

https://app.box.com/s/cc5sa71w56w5z19h0ng0pi1fqqm8oo7d

Sorry for the big file, but with a lower sampling rate the fine rasping got lost a bit Actually, I only hear it well on headphones. Maybe my speakers just suck

This is lush classic pad. I really like it

is it done with Sylenth? Really nice

I like Retrologue for such pads but I could make some with Massive and Thor in Reason also. I will try to upload some here or in a new thread (about pads) when I get home.

fluffy_little_something · Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:44 pm

Oops, yes, Sylenth

Sometimes I just play any chords for a quarter of an hour because it sounds so pleasant

Retrologue could do it as well I suppose, but one would need external effects to make it sound like Sylenth. For instance, I use the eq a lot in Sylenth, and of course this patch uses the reverb and chorus.

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:12 pm

commodore wrote:Can anyone tell me if Omnisphere 2 has more JP8000 waveforms? or how it may compare to sounding like a JP8000?
thanks!

I don't have (or really played with) a JP8000 but I'll try to help out on the first part of your question.

First, as part of the DSP (Synth) waveforms added, they have added several JP and Juno variants: JP-8 JP-8000 Juno60 JX-3P. They also have waveforms labelled Virus.

On the sound sample front they have one soundsource of the JP-8000 Supersaw which has a fixed detune amount that's pretty wide. They also have 3 variants of the JP-8000 warm strings sound. There are several other Roland soundsources: JP-8, Juno 60, JX-10, JX-JP, JX-3P. I didn't look at all of them but a quick sampling seems to indicate through tags they were all in Omni1.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:59 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:Oops, yes, Sylenth Sometimes I just play any chords for a quarter of an hour because it sounds so pleasant

Retrologue could do it as well I suppose, but one would need external effects to make it sound like Sylenth. For instance, I use the eq a lot in Sylenth, and of course this patch uses the reverb and chorus.

To have nice pads actually is not an easy task (at least for me!). Although most of the synths I have can produce really nice ones. I'm not perfectionist, so I don't mind some differences here and there. Anyway, they might not be super saw, but they are 'good' saw

Some examples (mostly factory pads with tiny modifications):

Massive:
https://app.box.com/s/g929i34akf962p169p9h910o2i3zf7ms

Retrologue:
https://app.box.com/s/wudr8d7lrxajn7qcfneqp6ocy1vgz7nh

Codex:
https://app.box.com/s/jpcsepz4mhjysp38rizrakn3t4705ioe

Thor:
https://app.box.com/s/qkaurwqr1qazvuufuenslqptg9jzgx7b

[Edit: I had problems viewing with soundcloud

]

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:14 am

they have one soundsource of the JP-8000 Supersaw which has a fixed detune amount that's pretty wide

This. The key feature of JP-8000 leads is smooth detune modulation. You can't get this effect with fixed waveforms, you need to layer 7 oscillators and control them precisely. Also, you can't get free-running oscillators with waveform or wavetable.

(The same is true for acid.)

fluffy_little_something · Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:09 am

EnGee wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Oops, yes, Sylenth Sometimes I just play any chords for a quarter of an hour because it sounds so pleasant

Retrologue could do it as well I suppose, but one would need external effects to make it sound like Sylenth. For instance, I use the eq a lot in Sylenth, and of course this patch uses the reverb and chorus.
To have nice pads actually is not an easy task (at least for me!). Although most of the synths I have can produce really nice ones. I'm not perfectionist, so I don't mind some differences here and there. Anyway, they might not be super saw, but they are 'good' saw
Some examples (mostly factory pads with tiny modifications):

Massive:
https://app.box.com/s/g929i34akf962p169p9h910o2i3zf7ms

Retrologue:
https://app.box.com/s/wudr8d7lrxajn7qcfneqp6ocy1vgz7nh

Codex:
https://app.box.com/s/jpcsepz4mhjysp38rizrakn3t4705ioe

Thor:
https://app.box.com/s/qkaurwqr1qazvuufuenslqptg9jzgx7b

[Edit: I had problems viewing with soundcloud ]

I think Massive sounds the worst. Codex sounds much better, very 80's somehow. Can it do SuperWhatever stuff? Element had a rather rudimentary Unison if I remember correctly, but that's it.
I don't even know Thor

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:39 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:
EnGee wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Oops, yes, Sylenth Sometimes I just play any chords for a quarter of an hour because it sounds so pleasant

Retrologue could do it as well I suppose, but one would need external effects to make it sound like Sylenth. For instance, I use the eq a lot in Sylenth, and of course this patch uses the reverb and chorus.
To have nice pads actually is not an easy task (at least for me!). Although most of the synths I have can produce really nice ones. I'm not perfectionist, so I don't mind some differences here and there. Anyway, they might not be super saw, but they are 'good' saw
Some examples (mostly factory pads with tiny modifications):

Massive:
https://app.box.com/s/g929i34akf962p169p9h910o2i3zf7ms

Retrologue:
https://app.box.com/s/wudr8d7lrxajn7qcfneqp6ocy1vgz7nh

Codex:
https://app.box.com/s/jpcsepz4mhjysp38rizrakn3t4705ioe

Thor:
https://app.box.com/s/qkaurwqr1qazvuufuenslqptg9jzgx7b

[Edit: I had problems viewing with soundcloud ]

I think Massive sounds the worst. Codex sounds much better, very 80's somehow. Can it do SuperWhatever stuff? Element had a rather rudimentary Unison if I remember correctly, but that's it.
I don't even know Thor

I think I didn't try with Massive enough (it was the last one in hurry

). It can sound wonderful really, so blame it on me!

I haven't delved deeply into Codex yet, but yes it has unison and it surprised me how good it can sound. I'm not sure about Elements. I almost bought it but as you see I have many synths and I'm already confused about them. Anyway, Codex is a great synth. I love it. As you said, it can sound very 80's (high quality 80's!). It also can do weird wavetables sounds and you can modulate moving between the tables if one table is not enough!

Thor is in Reason

Great synth really, it has many kinds of ocsillators (Wavetable, Analog, Multi, Phase Modulation, FM pair and Noise). It has several great filters as well. Thor IMO from the best designed synths ever. Reason worth it alone just with Thor

Of course, my favourite 'Jupiter' synth! Retrologue I love it.

I tried little bit with Sunrizer, but I couldn't come with something the same league with the others. I was surprised as I thought it can do it easily. Anyway, Sunrizer is good for the bright super saw as a lead, but Sylenth is more interesting of course.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:59 am

Numanoid wrote:I thought the supersaw sound is a little dated now, at it was used so much in trance 10-15 years ago ?

Just like guitars, organs and pianos?

fluffy_little_something · Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:05 am

D-Fusion wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I thought the supersaw sound is a little dated now, at it was used so much in trance 10-15 years ago ?
Just like guitars, organs and pianos?

Supersaw is a rather specific sound, those who liked it 15 years ago probably still like it, and those who hated it 15 years ago probably hate it even more today

favorite supersaw synth?