favorite supersaw synth?

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EnGee wrote:I think I didn't try with Massive enough (it was the last one in hurry :hihi:). It can sound wonderful really, so blame it on me!

I haven't delved deeply into Codex yet, but yes it has unison and it surprised me how good it can sound. I'm not sure about Elements. I almost bought it but as you see I have many synths and I'm already confused about them. Anyway, Codex is a great synth. I love it. As you said, it can sound very 80's (high quality 80's!). It also can do weird wavetables sounds and you can modulate moving between the tables if one table is not enough!

Thor is in Reason ;) Great synth really, it has many kinds of ocsillators (Wavetable, Analog, Multi, Phase Modulation, FM pair and Noise). It has several great filters as well. Thor IMO from the best designed synths ever. Reason worth it alone just with Thor :D

Of course, my favourite 'Jupiter' synth! Retrologue I love it.

I tried little bit with Sunrizer, but I couldn't come with something the same league with the others. I was surprised as I thought it can do it easily. Anyway, Sunrizer is good for the bright super saw as a lead, but Sylenth is more interesting of course.
Wavetable synths use quite some CPU power, so I guess I can forget about that. But Codex would certainly be the most appealing one to me, also has a nice user interface and is not as bloated as other such synths.

With the supersaw sound, it is not only the sound as such, but how it is used/played. If I remember correctly (I hate Trance and EDM in general, so my memories in that respect are very limited :hihi: ) supersaw is not used for continuous background pads, but instead for stab-like pads and aggressive leads. I always found the supersaw sound aggressive and as such negative. I prefer conventional unison, if necessary for whatever reason, especially for bass sounds.

I am still/again impressed by Sylenth, that old synth can produce so many different sounds one might not expect from those more basic waveforms etc. it has. And all that while using little CPU and being rock-solid :) For my 80's music it is really all I need, when combined with the M1 for those digital and sampled sounds Sylenth can't do of course. But I could get by with Sylenth alone, too, if I had to.

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fluffy_little_something wrote:
Wavetable synths use quite some CPU power, so I guess I can forget about that. But Codex would certainly be the most appealing one to me, also has a nice user interface and is not as bloated as other such synths.
It does uses a little bit more cpu than Massive, but still low. The interface is so easy to figure out but the manual is not excellent like FM8's or Massive's ones. Anyway, I bought recently a tutorial from Macprovideo and it is really an excellent one. So, theoretically I have mastered it! :hihi:
Codex has a great sound that I can't close it to open another synth! damn it!

I won't comment on 'that' sound! But, I can listen and enjoy Trance/EDM for few minutes every few weeks :clown:
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fluffy_little_something wrote:
EnGee wrote:I think I didn't try with Massive enough (it was the last one in hurry :hihi:). It can sound wonderful really, so blame it on me!

I haven't delved deeply into Codex yet, but yes it has unison and it surprised me how good it can sound. I'm not sure about Elements. I almost bought it but as you see I have many synths and I'm already confused about them. Anyway, Codex is a great synth. I love it. As you said, it can sound very 80's (high quality 80's!). It also can do weird wavetables sounds and you can modulate moving between the tables if one table is not enough!

Thor is in Reason ;) Great synth really, it has many kinds of ocsillators (Wavetable, Analog, Multi, Phase Modulation, FM pair and Noise). It has several great filters as well. Thor IMO from the best designed synths ever. Reason worth it alone just with Thor :D

Of course, my favourite 'Jupiter' synth! Retrologue I love it.

I tried little bit with Sunrizer, but I couldn't come with something the same league with the others. I was surprised as I thought it can do it easily. Anyway, Sunrizer is good for the bright super saw as a lead, but Sylenth is more interesting of course.
Wavetable synths use quite some CPU power, so I guess I can forget about that. But Codex would certainly be the most appealing one to me, also has a nice user interface and is not as bloated as other such synths.

With the supersaw sound, it is not only the sound as such, but how it is used/played. If I remember correctly (I hate Trance and EDM in general, so my memories in that respect are very limited :hihi: ) supersaw is not used for continuous background pads, but instead for stab-like pads and aggressive leads. I always found the supersaw sound aggressive and as such negative. I prefer conventional unison, if necessary for whatever reason, especially for bass sounds.

I am still/again impressed by Sylenth, that old synth can produce so many different sounds one might not expect from those more basic waveforms etc. it has. And all that while using little CPU and being rock-solid :) For my 80's music it is really all I need, when combined with the M1 for those digital and sampled sounds Sylenth can't do of course. But I could get by with Sylenth alone, too, if I had to.
Since when "wavetable" synths do use more CPU than others? There are maybe certain ones like e.g. Serum but there are also some that are generally quite low or even very low like e.g. Nave or Largo or the old PPG Wave 2.V.
Generally Wavetable synthesis does not seem to need a lot of CPU power. It really depends on the synth you use.

What normally uses much CPU is using a dedicated Unison. In that respect there is a HUGE difference in synths that have a dedicated Supersaw oscillator like e.g. Nave, DUNE 2, Electra 2.1 and the JP-8000 oscillator in Diva (while Diva uses more CPU for the other modules, especially the filter...) or others while the Unison (voices "Stack" in Diva) in those uses some more CPU of course (not really a big problem in Largo iand Nave which seem to be optimzed in the latest versions).

Actually the only dedicated wavetable synth where i found serious CPU issues was Serum so far. Synthmaster sometimes could cause some problems too.
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That depends on how 'naive' the wavetable is. AFAIU, in e.g., DUNE2, the wavetable (wt file) contains pre-formatted wave data that has most of the preprocessing required for pitching and anti-aliasing already done. If this is done 'on-the-fly' then it is possible to envisage a requirement for more CPU.
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supersaw is not used for continuous background pads, but instead for stab-like pads and aggressive leads
Nah. Classic supersaw pad and lead:

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DJ Warmonger wrote:
supersaw is not used for continuous background pads, but instead for stab-like pads and aggressive leads
Nah. Classic supersaw pad and lead:


Huh? That confirms my view... It sounded OK until the supersaw synths kicked in, that's like waterboarding to my ears 8)

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Ingo, I have read repeatedly here on KVR that Codex causes CPU spikes, although probably not as bad as Serum.

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Sylenth1, Massive and Serum, maybe Spire.

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The Grand SuperNecro Showcase!

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Lol.. supersaws will never die!

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No worries, we love talking about super saws here--just saws, even.
Doing nothing is only fun when you have something you are supposed to do.

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Well, the guy in the video temporarily threw in a square wave, utterly ruining everything for me. I am not prepared to talk about square waves, and don't even think about pushing it with some pulse variant.
Doing nothing is only fun when you have something you are supposed to do.

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surreal wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:36 pm Lol.. supersaws will never die!
Unfortunately :? The UN should slap sanctions on Roland...

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The Prophet Rev2 kicks ass for supersaws. Who would have thought...

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