KVR Audio

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:49 pm

Wildfunk wrote:Of course it sold well in the beginning... but NOW it's dead.

Do you have some secret access to sales numbers that nobody else has?

How many copies did it sell in the beginning, how many copies have been sold in total?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:52 pm

Numanoid wrote:And then you haven't answered this question:
Wildfunk wrote:most guys already use a "free" version
What guys are that ?
Stupid question. Crack users of course!

Well, KVR is not the place to brag about cracked plugs being used either.

Do you think cracked = free ?

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:59 pm

How dare they give their plugins away for free and then demand we authorize them before we can even use them. Bastards! Where's my pitchfork?

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:03 pm

chk071 wrote:Wildfunk, do you really expect Novation to put a lot of work and effort into all 3 plugins, and remove, or change their copy protection, which works for them, and for which they built their system, servers and anything?

Why not? I mean it only costs money for the maintenance. They should better invest their time in fixing the bugs!!!

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:06 pm

Numanoid wrote:Do you think cracked = free ?

Do you really think the crack users get the "free" version of the V now just to make their installed version legit?

What i want to say: Everybody already has the V, no matter if bought, downloaded illegally or received as a free gift.

The sales are down, it's an old plugin, ... so they really could turn it into freeware (without any strings attached).

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:09 pm

Wildfunk wrote:Novation sucks! Still not fixed the bugs (Voices LED, MIDI LED, lame preset loading).

Are these kind of small bugs that's getting you red hot under the collar?

You can't be serious that the preset loading is a bug, it might be tedious, but hardly a bug.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:11 pm

Wildfunk wrote:What i want to say: Everybody already has the V, no matter if bought, downloaded illegally or received as a free gift.

Unbeliveably, not only do you know the complete sales statistics of plug, you also know what is on everybody's HDD

Obviously you are working for the NSA right

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:19 pm

Numanoid wrote:You can't be serious that the preset loading is a bug, it might be tedious, but hardly a bug.

It was fast before the last "updates".

Numanoid wrote:Unbeliveably, not only do you know the complete sales statistics of plug, you also know what is on everybody's HDD Obviously you are working for the NSA right

Not really, but i work in a music store

But if you really think the plugin sells well than you're just a fool.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:24 pm

Wildfunk wrote:Not really, but i work in a music store

What kind of old skool devs sell their plugs in boxes in music stores these days?

Just to make some examples, do Valhalla or Melda box their products and sell in music stores?

You can't be serious meaning that boxed plugs sales is a way to measure total sales of plugs these days, maybe 10-15 years ago it was, not now.

Even Arturia's boxes are difficult to come by in stores these days.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:26 pm

Wildfunk wrote:i work in a music store

Then it's even more puzzling why you're so keen on discussing about copy protections here. Imagine everything is easy to pirate and copy protection are as hassle-free as possible. You'd be unemployed.

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:30 pm

Numanoid wrote:You can't be serious meaning that boxed plugs sales is a way to measure total sales of plugs these days, maybe 10-15 years ago it was, not now.

Dude i have a little bit more insight than you, just accept it.

chk071 wrote:Then it's even more puzzling why you're so keen on discussing about copy protections here. Imagine everything is easy to pirate and copy protection are as hassle-free as possible. You'd be unemployed.

We sell hardware, not 12-years-old plugins.

Numanoid and chk071 please keep the thread alive with your nonsense, i'm outta here!

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:36 pm

Wildfunk wrote:Dude i have a little bit more insight than you, just accept it.

Sure, by selling hardware I guess you get inside information that puts you in a position to know everything about sales in the plugin market

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:46 pm

Numanoid wrote:Sure, by selling hardware I guess you get inside information that puts you in a position to know everything about sales in the plugin market

Dude you know NOTHING. Please shut up now! But feel free to prove your lie (V sells well).

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:48 pm

Dude, why you back here, when you said you outta here?

I really trust what you are saying for sure

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:53 pm

Iron Maiden had an instrumental called Losfer Words

Yup, that's the way to know you won a discussion for sure

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