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tooneba · Post by **tooneba** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:25 am

Image-Line wrote:I suppose some people don't know us, but it's slightly amusing to see the paranoia.

You guys have spoiled too much those paranoia kids. You should rather make FL auto-update default like ableton live to bother and discipline those offline people!!

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:46 am

Asking questions or being concerned does not make one paranoid.
Accusing some of your fans of being paranoid is bad manners IMHO.

Image-Line · Post by **Image-Line** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:42 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:Asking questions or being concerned does not make one paranoid.
Accusing some of your fans of being paranoid is bad manners IMHO.

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robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:22 am

I'd say it's more of a question of annoyances than paranoia. I was too lazy to do a network traffic capture yesterday but I really doubt anything nefarious is going on.

But why put all this online crap in in the first place? Who want's to surf the web from their DAW? The most annoying things are the error messages and lag when network is disabled (which it is on my main DAW). If you really need to have some kind of online news and stuff then put it all into some kind of start screen/project launcher with an option to completely disable it.

And as for rendering screen, I'd rather see a minigame of tetris or solitaire included there than some online advertising.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:04 am

As long as FL dont became another "Custom Shop" i'm fine with it.

Image-Line · Post by **Image-Line** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:26 am

murnau wrote:As long as FL dont became another "Custom Shop" i'm fine with it.

This all does boil down to a couple of clicks. 2 to disable the NewsPanel. One to disable the render panel.

What do we get out of it? Some contact with the 200,000+ people who download and try the demo each week. Contact with the tens of millions using the demo long-term.

Regards Scott

KingTuck · Post by **KingTuck** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:17 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:Asking questions or being concerned does not make one paranoid.
Accusing some of your fans of being paranoid is bad manners IMHO.

I'll jumble in to say BS on that. "Asking questions" is inarticulate to this. There was clear paranoia from some people about FL's net use, despite there being no indication of it being for unfriendly purposes.

It's objectively paranoia, Scott was in the right saying so. Developers are under no obligation to kiss ass. Good developers are firm, friendly and fair. I would say Scott is easily all three of those things.

Anyways let's please not bullshit this thread into something other than FL 12.1 talk. How's the beta running for people?

KingTuck · Post by **KingTuck** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:26 am

murnau wrote:As long as FL dont became another "Custom Shop" i'm fine with it.

IL have always run their company with a clear headed philosophy. I highly doubt this will happen.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:52 am

KingTuck wrote:
murnau wrote:As long as FL dont became another "Custom Shop" i'm fine with it.
IL have always run their company with a clear headed philosophy. I highly doubt this will happen.

Oh, i know that i think. IL is awesome with the free lifetime update. Slightly ambiguous what i wrote.. ..my fault sorry.

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:14 am

The Dissonance wrote:awesome I feel like we are one step closer to time signature changes

If you are familiar with timesig changes in EDM, then this was freaking hilarious

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:25 pm

camsr wrote:
The Dissonance wrote:awesome I feel like we are one step closer to time signature changes
If you are familiar with timesig changes in EDM, then this was freaking hilarious

Well.I'ma guessin you missed where Scott said they were going to add time sigs to the software?

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:30 pm

Oh...I also want to apologize for the raising of the paranoia issue with Kalamata.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:52 pm

KingTuck wrote:
Kalamata Kid wrote:Asking questions or being concerned does not make one paranoid.
Accusing some of your fans of being paranoid is bad manners IMHO.
I'll jumble in to say BS on that. "Asking questions" is inarticulate to this. There was clear paranoia from some people about FL's net use, despite there being no indication of it being for unfriendly purposes.

It's objectively paranoia, Scott was in the right saying so. Developers are under no obligation to kiss ass. Good developers are firm, friendly and fair. I would say Scott is easily all three of those things.

Anyways let's please not bullshit this thread into something other than FL 12.1 talk. How's the beta running for people?

I though Scott did a good job replying to the questions. Using the word paranoid was unnecessary. This typically gets a negative response. It’s like throwing gasoline to a flame. We are mature enough to know this.

Scott replied to me regarding this issue. Case closed between us.

So we disagree. You think that paranoia was an appropriate word to use, I do not.

So we agree. Let’s put this unfortunate incidence to rest and go on with the business of FLS 21.1

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:51 am

It seems that some of the IP addresses that FL Studio connects trace back to NSA. It probably means that when you render your music it is sent to NSA so they can analyze if your music contains any subliminal terrorist melodies, harmonies or lyrics.

basslinemaster · Post by **basslinemaster** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:06 am

Kalamata Kid wrote:Asking questions or being concerned does not make one paranoid.
Accusing some of your fans of being paranoid is bad manners IMHO.

Being stupid enough to not understand how the internet works is just embarrassing...

It's quite obvious that FL Studio is accessing the internet to display information FROM Image Line, not to watch how many times you render something. Jesus. Talk about over reacting to something. "Oh no! Image Line is counting every time I render something!" If you would actually think about this, it is laughable - what would they do with such information? And now this entire thread is full of this bullshit - start a new thread and go at it if you want, I came to this thread to read about 12.1 and its new functions.

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