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iDavid · Post by **iDavid** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:16 pm

Do most of you guys run a dual boot?

I have and it seems like a good idea. I am about to update my DAW or replace it...

Anyway, are you guys runnning dual boots or dedicated DAWs, or everthing together?

TechnoWeeniePas · Post by **TechnoWeeniePas** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:43 pm

I have a dual boot XP/ME system. Yeah I know ME sucks but believe it or not I still have a few old school programs that dont run under XP that I use regularly. As soon as I can I am moving off of that though. I have also done BSD/XP before.

Just note which to install first. I have found if you are installing multiple instances of windows you want to install oldest first then newest. If you are installing two copies of the same os you cant really state and order now can you? And if you are doing BSD/Linux then do windows fisrt. Thats just personal experience to make things simpler...you can do it any order you want really.

I have seen alot of people just have a different setup for the same install of XP. One login has all the useless stuff stripped out so that it runs better as a DAW and then another login with everything else they need to do...personaly I just have everything together...not sure if breaking it up like that really helps or not...something to think about though.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:47 pm

3 dedicated boxes, 2 seperate boxes for the 'rest' of the tasks like wordprocessing, surfing, etc. I really haven't had a need for dual boot because of all the boxes.

Devon

warp x · Post by **warp x** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:54 pm

triple boot (2 hd's)
xp, beos, linux, the last two for web, mail, office, and a little audio/midi.
never wanted to be bothered with all this virus nonsense. (that's why my main machine is a mac

)

ludwig · Post by **ludwig** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:05 pm

TechnoWeeniePas wrote: I have seen alot of people just have a different setup for the same install of XP. One login has all the useless stuff stripped out so that it runs better as a DAW and then another login with everything else they need to do...

Do you meen that it is possible to dissable for example the tcp/ip services for one user (the daw user) and enable them for the normal user?

Is it possible to install 2 win xp on one system: one really tweaked (for daw use), and an other normal xp? how do i do this, and wath about partitions (do i need different partitions?)?

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 10:07 pm

ludwig wrote:
TechnoWeeniePas wrote: I have seen alot of people just have a different setup for the same install of XP. One login has all the useless stuff stripped out so that it runs better as a DAW and then another login with everything else they need to do...
Do you meen that it is possible to dissable for example the tcp/ip services for one user (the daw user) and enable them for the normal user?

Is it possible to install 2 win xp on one system: one really tweaked (for daw use), and an other normal xp? how do i do this, and wath about partitions (do i need different partitions?)?

Yup, and yup.

Devon

GaryG · Post by **GaryG** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:00 pm

i've always dual booted in the past but thought i'd give the xp users thing a bash this time.

so far so good; no need for boot managers, less wasted disk space, simpler disk partitioning... performance seems fine, no sign of dodgy apps i may install under the 'day to day' user showing up under my audio one. though the acid test will be when i start playing with web servers etc...

.g

iDavid · Post by **iDavid** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:09 pm

I've never used the XP user thing.

So, with that: can I have one tweaked system and one not.... I kind of doubt it

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 2:47 am

It depends on how you do it and what you expect from it. Some programs like to be installed globally, so there will be some bleed-over.

It's not going to give you 2 pristine separate accounts, but it IS useful for those not wanting a separate dual boot.

Dual boot is the way to go for the paranoics.

I'm reckless... I don't even have a dual-user install, and use the 'admin' account as my main account. I don't recommend it, though... next time I re-install, I'm going to go multi-user and that'll be good enough for me.

Greg

funkster1 · Post by **funkster1** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:45 am

Well, I do run a Dual Boot, and let me say it has strictly nothing to do with paranoia or anything else pointing in this direction. If I'll catch a virus it will just happen, no matter how careful one can be.
However for performance, I can really notice a HUGE difference.
I have 4 HD's, each on it's own IDE channel:

* 1 20GB Dual Boot-DAW on C:, Office/Net on D: (2xWinXP Pro and soon a 3rd OS:A/DeMuDi, a Linux Audio Distribution)
* 1 15GB Personal Data and swap file as Master & CD-RW/DVD as slave
* 1 80GB/8MB for samples and disk streaming VSTi's
* 1 80GB/2MB for my projects and audio recordings

So as you can see, I don´t need a big HD for my OS, since all the other relevant and huge files are on other HD's. 8GB for my DAW Boot and I still have plenty of room (4.4GB). My system is heavily optimized and on boot-up, taskmanager is showing a RAM usage of only 57MB .
On my Office/Net partition RAM usage is already 110MB on startup, but only because I don't care for fancy graphics or any WinXP Luna styles and similar stuff, if they would be turned on, it easily boots up around 160-180MB. And this without launching any app yet, just turning on your machine.
The office partition also is well optimized, but apps like Norton AV, a Firewall, Office apps, some multimedia stuff like Power DVD and the like quickly eat your available ressources.
So IMHO a Dual Boot definitely pays. And it's worth the extra space and installation (HD's are cheap these days anyway)

Cheers
Raphael

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:51 am

Can't argue with that one!

With your setup, having 4 separate IDE channels is critical, and a well thought-out plan.

You can come over and optimize my system for me.

Greg

funkster1 · Post by **funkster1** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:52 am

Lunch Money wrote:Can't argue with that one!

With your setup, having 4 separate IDE channels is critical, and a well thought-out plan.

You can come over and optimize my system for me.

Greg

If you pay me the ticket, sure enough I would do it

Add some good food to it and a nice girlie, and I'll be yours

Raphael

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:37 pm

You're on your own for the ticket, but my girlfriend has single sisters.

Greg

GW · Post by GW » Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:49 am

If you install XP in a dual boot do you have to authorize twice and is there a problem with that? Or is it the same code for both?

iDavid · Post by **iDavid** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:34 am

You have to call MS for the second boot, since it won't be on the internet. Takes about one minute

Dual boot for XP?