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dgkenney · Post by **dgkenney** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:02 pm

O.K., O.K. Props to you Prog and Synth worshipers. I am sure you are all waiting with baited breath for the release of SS2. But I want my Studiophonik. No 1929 maxi-micro-mini-moog, no atmospheric layers made with samples of the wind from some Tibetian mountain top - just some screaming guitars, basses and horns. With the reschedule of SS2 release does this push out the release of Studiophonik? Is this a serial process or are they developed in parallel and can we expect it soon?

Dan

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:14 pm

They are developed in parallel. Revolving different tasks amongst the team which also keeps things fresh and interesting around here. In fact, I was just working with Studiophonik snares this weekend and made a few mp3s just for the fun of it. Here's a few:

This is a kit with a Ludwig Black Beauty snare. I was practicing doing some new hat tricks as well. www.sonicreality.com/squidscorner/blackbeaudemo.mp3

This one is a Dennis Chambers signature Pearl with me really messing around with the beat (just having fun messing with the beat every 2 secs). www.sonicreality.com/squidscorner/rediculoseedit.mp3

Here's another clip of that kit with a bit less craziness (but still... messing around): www.sonicreality.com/squidscorner/DCprlSNdemo.mp3

I did a few more exports that are still AIFF but I could convert them to mp3 if anyone wants to hear them. They were with the Steve Gadd Yamaha snare with the mute ring and without. There are over 100 different snares like this to choose from in Studiophonik.

MickGael · Post by **MickGael** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:45 pm

OK....this should be special...

Great sounds to go with those lovely Neve-esque knobs!

Can't wait!

dgkenney · Post by **dgkenney** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:21 pm

Squids,

Thanks for the demo's. They sound great! Anything you want to through up as demo's of Studiophonik will be greatly appreciated.

With the acknowledged disclaimer that anything you say about release dates is bound to be "iffy" due to the nature of the software beast, any "target date" for Studiophonik?

Dan

DrApostropheX · Post by **DrApostropheX** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 8:59 pm

Count my vote as someone who is VERY interested in StudioPhonik. I just about have all the "synth" sounds I need, but a "real" acoustic/electric studio environment is something I've wanted in a VSTi for about a year now.

Bigg John · Post by **Bigg John** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:01 pm

How was that performed, Squids ??? v-kit, from the keyboard. (i don't think anyone would have the patience to step edit that)

Those snares are hot. how many velocity levels ??? how many seperate voices(right hand,left hand, different spots on the snare???).

I'm not totally happy with any snare samples i have, but i think life would be good with these

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 11:50 pm

Thanks guys. Yes, this is another type of sound module completely. An entirely different focus than most plug-ins or at least in it's compilation, quality, focus and production power in one box.

The audio clips there were performed from the keyboard with no overdubbing and obviously no quantizing. There's some tempo fluctuation there and these are one takers. I just wanted to hear it back and then thought.. ok, make an mp3 and let it be heard for a sec. I posted it the other day, then took it down. Now it is back because you brought up the subject of Studiophonik and I thought you might like to hear something from it. In fact, I have a few more files I'll upload in a second with some other snares. Each one has a cool unique character. They are all 8 velocities which is very expressive, especially because they have 9 different keys representing ONE snare. So, that means up to 72 hits per snare with adjustment of direct and room mics (so each snare is up to 144 stereo samples)

This is a fun product that most producers should want. I know I sure would have appreciated this when writing with my old band (which I was just listening to right now). It is nice to know that when I have Studiophonik done I can put together demos for my new band to play and have it sound the way I want it to. I imagine it is a good way to have complete flexibility for a band of songwriters who want to get a record deal. I remember my band was always going back into the studio to recut a track again and again to change different things. Having Studiophonik in a sequencer (while not exactly the same as having a band in a studio) is a great way to mock things up and hear it back, swapping things out very quickly to get what you want. You just can't do that quickly in a real life studio situation.

One of the best things about products like SampleTank 2 XL, Sonik Synth 2, Studiophonik is that they can cause you to write more because of the convenience of each of them being full workstations of different material. You don't have to go "Oh, man, I don't have any good bass sounds! Better go buy another $300 module!". Of course, if you do want more bass sounds then for less than a hundred bucks you can pick up an Expansion Tank or Sonik Capsule for basses. But, that won't be because you don't have any good ones in these products to use. It will be only because you want more.

These are designed to be great writing and production tools that give you more useful variety of material for the money than any other instrument plug-in. For the same price you could buy just a virtual guitar or drum module. Instead, with Studiophonik, you get a full band of instruments. For the same price you could get a module that is only just synth samples or you can get Sonik Synth 2 that not only has more variety of sampled synths but also has a full workstation of pianos, orchestral instruments, drums and enough to write a complete song just with that one purchase.

Bigg John · Post by **Bigg John** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:22 am

cool, what about the horns ??? what kind?? will there be several articulations from each of the individual instruments.??? if so how will that work ??? how long does it take till you get really annoyed with incesant freakin questions???

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:54 am

Bigg John wrote:cool, what about the horns ??? what kind?? will there be several articulations from each of the individual instruments.??? if so how will that work ??? how long does it take till you get really annoyed with incesant freakin questions???

The horns are all discrete. You have 2 different trumpets, 2 trombones, 2 Tenor Sax, 2 Alto Sax. You can layer them together and pan them wherever you want. Each one is multiple velocity and has programmed controllable crescendos. There are also falls and a few other performance elements. There are of course many combis with horn ensembles already made but the idea behind these horns are that you can make your own ensemble changing individual octaves, detuning and stereo placement. Oh and each one has a direct and room mic mix too which is cool for some more studio control.

The horns and keys are there as the icing on the cake. There aren't a lot of variety of brands for these instruments like there are with the guitars, bass and drums in Studiophonik. But they are still choice instruments. For instance, the smallest piano in Studiophonik is over 100 megs (and you can mix in the amount of harp resonance too). It is a more high end instrument than most sound modules. But the trade off is that it does take about double the CPU of most plug-ins. This is for people who have faster computers or are willing to track their plug-in to audio just for the quality difference.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:08 am

what's the big idea showing off stuff that's so far away from bieng released?

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 4:30 am

sickle666 wrote:what's the big idea showing off stuff that's so far away from bieng released?

Good stuff.

Bigg John · Post by **Bigg John** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 12:59 am

will there be B3s ??? what kind of leslies will they use, samples or dsp ???

Bigg John · Post by **Bigg John** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:02 am

Squids wrote: This is for people who have faster computers or are willing to track their plug-in to audio just for the quality difference.

my windows box is a pIII 600. I'm use to bouncing plugins

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:31 am

Yes, there will be both direct B3s and Leslie B3s. The Leslie B3s are unique because we used STRETCH to speed up and slow down the REAL recorded Leslie 122 and 147! This uses up some CPU though (in fact, you might choke that PIII to be honest... might be worth upgrading!). It sounds incredibly realistic because it has the character of the real deal but with speed up and slow down via the modwheel. NICE! But, there are also the direct tone which you can use the multifx patches we've made with an autopanning rotary effect through cabinet simulation DSP it has built in. That's also nice.

So, yeah it has B3s. On the keyboard side it has a couple AMAZING electric pianos. 2 Rhodes (one suitcase rhodes with cabinet simulation and one where you can adjust dyno attacks on it- incredible!) and then 1 awesome Wurlitzer and 1 awesome Clavinet. There are 2 Grand Pianos, a Yamaha and a Steinway and each have harp resonance control. Then there are the organs I described above. I think we may include waveforms from a Prophet 5 and a Minimoog with some classic analog synth patches just to cover the minimal synth and pad stuff a band like Steely Dan would do (notice Studiophonik is like Steely Dan in a box? All you need is Donald Fagen and you're in biz.... show biz kids!).

These individual instruments are like dedicated virtual instruments within Studiophonik. For instance, the acoustic pianos rival the quality of some dedicated piano modules. The electric pianos compare and sometimes outdo certain electric piano modules and then the drums can take on a lot of dedicated drum plug-ins, the guitars, the bass... Studiophonik, in some ways, takes the place of several thousand dollars in dedicated instrument plug-ins. Hopefully people will pick up on that VFM aspect of the product.

So, you have a solid focused selection of a pop/rock/jazz keyboard rig there but each instrument is a choice multi-dynamic, multi-layer complex expressive instrument. The keys are there to flesh out a killer studio rhythm section. For the ultimate keyboard rig with everything under the sun there is of course Sonik Synth 2.

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 4:14 am

Squids wrote: (notice Studiophonik is like Steely Dan in a box? All you need is Donald Fagen and you're in biz.... show biz kids!).

Steely Dan uses Sonic Reality stuffs?

Sonic Reality

KVR Audio

Studiophonik???