KVR Audio

teacue · Post by **teacue** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:14 am

@EvilDragon
Thank you

@ere2learn
Thanks a lot

With your clip I could finally understand very well what the mod env does and how to use it!
I think I was misleading the term "Modulation Envelope" and I thought it was exclusively used for LFO Modulation.
But I now understand that it is an envelope for all kind of parameters.
Now back to TAL-Sampler tweaking

subterfuge · Post by **subterfuge** » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:54 pm

It seems the TAL Sampler is a bit of a hit and miss for me. I like the simple, clear interface. Not keen on Resampler myself, I have kept all the "character" controls at their minimum effect or used just the linear mode.

Playing fast glissandos up or down for over one octave seems to make the sounds get stuck on repeat till Panic button or host stop is hit.
SFZ mappings may load but getting the related samples recognized seems not to work, browse screen allows one sample load at time and then it's always back to the same browse screen again and again. SFZ export exports only the mappings so not much use from it either. If something is SFZ already, may as well be played with anything which will play them, but exporting something which cannot be played by anything else? And a new proprietary sample format? I still have hardware samplers and have learned to live with conversions where needed and possible. But I don't think I need much more of that with software.

Nice effort, I can see why this has been received pretty well. The provided libraries, factory and Hollowsun (thanks fmr), are also good if not even necessary base for a sampler.

Orbit-50 · Post by **Orbit-50** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:39 am

At first I thought to myself, whatever, another sampler to throw into my already crowded VST folder, who cares, but I just tried this and I'm blown away. The sound and sample library quality is extremely high, and I literally felt like "back in the day" while playing these simple but yet powerful presets. Togu Audio Line is really keeping the 80's alive with their software. Mind you, I've completely let go of the past (particularly the 80's) when it comes to creating music, but right now I'm speechless, and I am really inspired to challenge myself to write some music right now with these VSTi exactly the way it would have been done 35 years ago. Pound for pound, your instruments and effects rival those costing 3 times as much. It's obvious that you guys pour your heart into this. Thank you for yet another time capsule VST that actually matters in the scheme of things.

.-.

teacue · Post by **teacue** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:04 pm

In case anyone using TAL-Sampler did not notice, a new version 1.4.0 is out.
Among other things the browser has definitively been improved

Here the list of improvement from TAL-Software site:

TAL-Software wrote: Shift + mouse drag snaps mod matrix amount to integer values (v1.4.0).
Mod matrix source UI update issue fixed (v1.4.0).
Remember save directory and add to folder favorites (v1.4.0).
Tune file directory to favorites added (v1.4.0).
Preset load button in preset browser added (loads presets without leaving preset browser) (v1.4.0).
Scrollbar contrast in mapping view improved (v1.4.0).
-1 for sample parameters in talsmpl preset file allowed for sample length and loop length (v1.4.0).
Remember tun file path (v1.4.0).
Open preset browser in directory of current preset if possible (v1.4.0).
Possible file filter crash in browser fixed (v1.4.0).
More contrast to UI file browser and other components (v1.4.0).
MIDI map button on mapping view added. Select mapping through MIDI (v1.4.0).
Parameter updating when create UI improved (v1.4.0).
Mod matrix amount can now be automated (v1.4.0).
Show real mod matrix amount in value display (v1.4.0).
Click at scrollbar in mapping view does not select other splice (v1.4.0).
UI keyboard does not steal keys anymore (v1.4.0).
Show presets in menu for fast preset browsing (v1.4.0).
Don't show default parameters (maybe does not work in all hosts) (v1.4.0).
c3 is the middle key (v1.4.0).
Slice button stays enabled when slicing audio (v1.4.0).
Removed shadow from mapping editor wave view (v1.4.0).
Loop start now moves loop end too with constant loop length (v1.4.0).
Snap mode also snaps to zero and sample end (v1.4.0).

Saukar30 · Post by **Saukar30** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:37 pm

Wait a minute... Tal Sampler slices too??? I didn't see that in the manual... Have to reread!!!!

fluffy_little_something · Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:00 pm

New build 1.4.1:

Load when select option added in preset browser (v1.4.1).

Open system file browser from within the wav and preset browser (v1.4.1)

Show not assigned keys in global piano roll (v1.4.1).

More contrast for selected text (v1.4.1).

Prevent combobox stealing enter key (v1.4.1).

fluffy_little_something · Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:07 pm

In the audio demo on the site there is a nice 80's synth bass I know from many songs, is that included in the presets?

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:31 pm

Orbit-50 wrote:At first I thought to myself, whatever, another sampler to throw into my already crowded VST folder, who cares, but I just tried this and I'm blown away. The sound and sample library quality is extremely high, and I literally felt like "back in the day" while playing these simple but yet powerful presets. Togu Audio Line is really keeping the 80's alive with their software. Mind you, I've completely let go of the past (particularly the 80's) when it comes to creating music, but right now I'm speechless, and I am really inspired to challenge myself to write some music right now with these VSTi exactly the way it would have been done 35 years ago. Pound for pound, your instruments and effects rival those costing 3 times as much. It's obvious that you guys pour your heart into this. Thank you for yet another time capsule VST that actually matters in the scheme of things.

.-.

In that case, be sure also to try Dexed, the DX7 emulation that loads all the original DX7 preset libraries (sysex) perfectly. It's spot on 80's (including the digital "grit") and accompanies this very well

Dexed and TAL-Sampler are my most used plugins lately

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:56 pm

I just want to say that this is cool:
"Loop start now moves loop end too with constant loop length (v1.4.0)"

BUT....

the other way can be cool too! I think ideal would be if you can chose. My choice would probably be the way it was changed to and is currently, but the old way seemed like it could be interesting for automation and stuff.

Orbit-50 · Post by **Orbit-50** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:29 pm

Nielzie wrote:In that case, be sure also to try Dexed, the DX7 emulation that loads all the original DX7 preset libraries (sysex) perfectly. It's spot on 80's (including the digital "grit") and accompanies this very well
Dexed and TAL-Sampler are my most used plugins lately

Thanks Nelzie! I really dig these real world 80's emulations.

.-.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:51 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:New build 1.4.1:

Load when select option added in preset browser (v1.4.1).

Open system file browser from within the wav and preset browser (v1.4.1)

Show not assigned keys in global piano roll (v1.4.1).

More contrast for selected text (v1.4.1).

Prevent combobox stealing enter key (v1.4.1).

TAL Sampler looks much better now. Thse apparently simple improvements do a lot in terms if usability and patch management.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:54 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:In the audio demo on the site there is a nice 80's synth bass I know from many songs, is that included in the presets?

I have to check, but my library has tons of basses, from several sources. Did you check that?

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:58 am

I don't know of this Audio DEMO but I would guess that he's thinking about the Yamaha 'DX7 Classic' and/or 'DX7II' Folders of sounds.

fluffy_little_something · Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:23 am

Aloysius wrote:I don't know of this Audio DEMO but I would guess that he's thinking about the Yamaha 'DX7 Classic' and/or 'DX7II' Folders of sounds.

Yes, indeed, I am pretty sure it is a DX bass, I have a similar one in Sylenth, believe it or not. I don't know how to program FM synths, so I keep away from them...

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:43 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:
Aloysius wrote:I don't know of this Audio DEMO but I would guess that he's thinking about the Yamaha 'DX7 Classic' and/or 'DX7II' Folders of sounds.
Yes, indeed, I am pretty sure it is a DX bass, I have a similar one in Sylenth, believe it or not. I don't know how to program FM synths, so I keep away from them...

The wonderful thing with samplers is that you don't have to program FM synths - you just have to record them