KVR Audio

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:16 pm

will do devon.. thanks for that.. The problem i think will be dissconnecting the WD, since that is my audio drive... and i will not able to open up sessions withought it... so i will not know.. this seems to be happening only when in doing audio work.

all the same... i think the change of cables is in order, ever since ive been getting thae "no 80conductor cable installed" message...

could you please tell me what exactly this means... As what kinda hard drives need this cable. Is mine one ? The funny thing is that i was not getting this message as long as i did not put in the WD. Also it was mentioned that the 40 pin and 80 pin cables look diferent.. then whould not their connectors also be different ??? but im using the same cable type that i have been using ever since my first machine.
thanks a ton.
Sidhu

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:50 pm

Same cable pinout, different type of cable entirely. There are 40 pins and 80 wires, and one look at the new cable, you'll be able to tell them apart for forever after that.

IT's needed for UltraATA 66 and above, so 100 and 133 need them as well. I'm trying to remember if 33 needed them or not? I don't think so, but I won't swear by it.

Try replacing the cable first with what you're supposed to have, and try again. You could copy a project to your OS drive, and try it there too ya know.

Devon

WOK · Post by **WOK** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:27 pm

One thing not mentioned here:
Don't forget the cooling. 7200rpm drives produce a lot of heat! There are special fans to mount on top or bottom of the HD.
Mounting HDs without some space up and down may also cause damage because of thermal problems.

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:33 pm

WOK wrote:One thing not mentioned here:
Don't forget the cooling. 7200rpm drives produce a lot of heat! There are special fans to mount on top or bottom of the HD.
Mounting HDs without some space up and down may also cause damage because of thermal problems.

Hmmm never mounted any fans on harddrives, and never had thermal problems. I've even stacked hard drives in top of each other. Still, no problems. Have cases without even extra case fans, and STILL no problems. IF your case gets too hot, then yes, get some cooling of some type in there. I'd be hard pressed to say it's totally 'required' unless the enclosure calls for it. So many motherboards and cases now support thermal checks and will shut down for you.

Devon

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:39 pm

HD Fans = noise. Zalman heatpipe's are probably better if you're worried about hot drives, and they'll reduce vibration noise as well...

http://www.quietpc.com/uk/harddrive.php

(And no, ATA33 only needed 40-way cable, AFAIR).

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Fri Jul 23, 2004 9:46 am

im not really worried bout heat. air conditioned room and my hardisks are not stacked one on top... ill get new cables first..

Sidhu

dj jeffrey · Post by **dj jeffrey** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:14 pm

Hi there,

It seems to be one of the internal components who's failing there job, what you can do and believe me I didn't know either, de-install the harddisk out of the computer, put on a plastic bag which you may use in a fridge.

Save your harddisk there for 24 hours, the next day get it out the fridge (Don't forget) take it out of the plastic bag and lay the HD on a towel for another 24 Hours for defrost.

80% solves the problem for short time maybe 2 days or 3 but gives you the oppertunity to backup your disk and getting a new one, this information I got from Maxtor when my HD began to make strange noises.

I hope this will help you so you can save your work and backup all important documents.

With all the best,

Jeffrey
The Netherlands

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:03 pm

dj jeffrey wrote:Hi there,

It seems to be one of the internal components who's failing there job, what you can do and believe me I didn't know either, de-install the harddisk out of the computer, put on a plastic bag which you may use in a fridge.

Save your harddisk there for 24 hours, the next day get it out the fridge (Don't forget) take it out of the plastic bag and lay the HD on a towel for another 24 Hours for defrost.

80% solves the problem for short time maybe 2 days or 3 but gives you the oppertunity to backup your disk and getting a new one, this information I got from Maxtor when my HD began to make strange noises.

I hope this will help you so you can save your work and backup all important documents.

With all the best,

Jeffrey
The Netherlands

Kidding me right ??!!!!

i mean i know that refrigeration can increase the lifespan of fresh food... but HARD DISKS ????

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:15 pm

24 hours seems a bit extreme. What this does come in helpful for is if you have a drive that overheats and stops working after it overheats, and you HAVE to pull data off the drive. This is last ditch effort obviously. I'd be more concerned about moisture condensing INSIDE the drive with this method though otherwise. I wouldn't recommend it, personally.

Devon

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Mon Jul 26, 2004 7:35 pm

it's ok.. i have all data on that drive backed up...

dj jeffrey · Post by **dj jeffrey** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:18 am

Well like i said Maxtor recommanded it to do, it's also not my personal favorite, but it could help.

The first time I heared this i was laughing also and thought the man was joking me around. But it could help to internal disk parts to perform better for a short time.

I hope you found a better solution i gave

It's your HD not mine.

Jeff

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:55 am

hey jeff!!!

no offence man... it does sound extreme but im (quite) sure ure not fibbing ....

im not in a situtation (hope ill never be) where i need to something so extreme!! it sounds extreme...

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:14 pm

Hi

I believe the hardrive freeze thing - I have heard that people put car stereo's in a freezer for a day to dislodge the chip/pin number codey thingy!

Flipper.

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Tue Jul 27, 2004 12:28 pm

I have heard that people put car stereo's in a freezer for a day to dislodge the chip/pin number codey thingy!

whats that ?

Hard disk faliure ?????