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Ingo Weidner
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sorry Ingo, but everyitime one thinks it can't get worse....

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Ingo Weidner
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H-man wrote:Hey Norbz, all,

Just playing around with some aspects, bi-polar dials, colours etc. I'm not really wedded to any of this, just testing stuff along the way using Norbz's template. Any comments welcome.

Note: there is a new mod selector to be added and the voices dial is still wrong but all WIP.

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Don't mind this skin at all. Good work.

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Ingo, your ".Knob" files are blank when I open them inside knobman, which version are you using?

Thanks,
David

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And I don't mind that darker wide screen version of yours Ingo. I might download some of these skins and see how they are to work with on my screen.

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Totolitoto wrote:Ingo, your ".Knob" files are blank when I open them inside knobman, which version are you using?

Thanks,
David
Hi,

what do you mean with "blank"? I am using JKnobman v1.3.2 (on Windows 7 64-bit) and thefiles are working here.

If you mean the labels those for the first version of the skin are white so maybe you do not see them. For editing you could switch them to black. You should be also able to see the white ones at the display in the lower left of JKnobman.
In the newer "metallic" knobs a layer of black and white colors is used for the labels so maybe you do not see the white ones in the editor.

I did not use teh "native" windows version of Knobman yet, also as the website recommends to switch to JKnobman:
Bug-fix version of 1.50. Probably this is the last version for windows-native. current development is changed to Java ported version. I recommend to migrate to JKnobMan than this version.
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Ingo Weidner
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

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Actually, I think you improved. The knobs look much better now, and the light grey background with the "brushed steel" also. Just some observations:

The labeled knobs don't have the label properly placed 8at least it seems so to my eyes). They look deviated up a little, and also a little to the left. Maybe you could check that. Nevertheless, I still prefer the drop-down menus.

The Bump effect doesn't have the expected results with the light grey background. Instead of making the labels more readable, it actually makes them worse. Maybe it's a problem with the font, but in this version I prefer the one without that effect.

Since the keyboard has a shadow, I think the knobs also need one (otherwise, there will be something that, even if just subconsciously, will not "fit" in our brain).

Summing it up, your skin biggest advantage is the more coherent placement of the elements, but it is still in need of improvements aesthetically.
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ftech wrote:Don't mind this skin at all. Good work.
Thank you ftech. Still noodling around with it. I can see what's going to happen here, I'll keep messing around and around and eventually end up with Mike's original skin ....already half way there :hihi:

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Those knob colours don't match tho... :scared:

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Ingo Weidner
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

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H-man wrote: Those knob colours don't match tho... :scared:
I agree :hihi: I would totally drop that - just a discrete scale around the knob would be enough, IMO. After all, when editing we have the pop-up labels displaying the exact value, and when playing we are not exactly worried with the knobs position :wink:

The little knobs also need a facelift, IMO, as I already said. :) And you have no shadows in the knobs now, yet the shadow remains in the keyboard.
Fernando (FMR)

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Ingonator wrote:what do you mean with "blank"?
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I mean, empty layers and invisible knobs ;)

It must be the java thing, I don't want to install Java though, so be it...

Thanks,
David

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fmr wrote:
H-man wrote: Those knob colours don't match tho... :scared:
I agree :hihi: I would totally drop that - just a discrete scale around the knob would be enough, IMO. After all, when editing we have the pop-up labels displaying the exact value, and when playing we are not exactly worried with the knobs position :wink:

The little knobs also need a facelift, IMO, as I already said. :) And you have no shadows in the knobs now, yet the shadow remains in the keyboard.
Yeah just goofing around :wink: At the moment it's just me thinking of things and then trying to use Knobman, GIMP, Blender or whatever to get it done. Good fun.

One thing I would say is that having re-worked the XML (or most of it) for Norbz, I have to respect Ingo's efforts to alter the layout of the various controls.

In essence, it's like one massive game of Battleships :lol: :wheee: :bang: :shock: :phew:

I have yet to try it (them) personally but will do so in the next day or so to see how it fits with work-flow. Like them or not however the re-working of the XML file is a huge help to all potential folks wanting to create a skin.

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Ingo Weidner
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1

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Ingonator wrote:
rasmusklump wrote:sorry Ingo, but everyitime one thinks it can't get worse....
Sorry, but i am really pissed by such comments....
Last but not least if you do not like my skins, Poly-Ana and/or my person just pass and do not post stuppid comments like this
Ingo
Ingonator wrote:Thanks for the kind comment, H-man. :hug:
So you only want positive comments ? You're in the wrong place then.
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