Synths with the snappiest envelopes

[tristan-]

Corona has 6 envelope curves so snappiness is highly guaranteed

I need to try Corona or Discovery Pro! both of them seem to be excellent.

[izonin]

...Or, you could simply use a transient shaper after the plug-in and sculpt the attack however you like. The SPL/brainworx one comes to mind.

[Kinh]

I agree that it's one of the way to reach the result. Although for the sound I'm after nowadays the important thing is cutoff modulation. but still you need a quick envelope for that.

Another example would be Melda Power Synth. I saw the thread yesterday and installed the demo. It's a beast. Really powerful. but the envelopes are not what I consider snappy in the Virus/Sylenth1 vein (there's no specific control for envelope amount, but 'frequency range' which works differently).

I find synth envelopes aren't the best especially for volume and filter thats why I use "LFO tool" instead. Far more flexible than most synth envelopes as far as shape goes, can create several nodes and double clicking + latency is better...good for complex stuff & fast attacks. It comes with more filter types than any synth out there and better quality too.
Dont know if you've heard of it, its an xfer plugin.

[Synthetic Wav]

if you are after psytrance bassline, most synth are good enought it's more how you tweak it and processing ,if you want more click just retriger the phase at a point it click. the oscillator matter a lot too..what i have noticed on some analog osc working good, tend to loook like a sine on one part of the saw, it s rounded it give that phat bottem end and not much harmonic/crap in the mids . serum is great for this as you can do your saw the way you want it and don't need much equing in the end.

[solidtrax]

DiscoDSP Corona has awesome envelopes! Spire also comes to mind, but people might not even know that they can change the curve of the envelopes (you have to click on the curve to change it).

[Teksonik]

Define "Snappy" in mathematical terms. This term holds as much meaning as "warmth".

[ZentralmassivSound]

(there's no specific control for envelope amount, but 'frequency range' which works differently).

Why would that be different? With volume envelopes you control amp range, with filter/pitch envelopes it's frequency ranges, there is really no other way for this. If it's called amount, it's still the same.

BTW I wrote that in the other thread too, MPS can use the 3rd oscillator to add an impulse at the beginning, that sounds equal to the Viruses punch feature. I think that's the snappy sound you are looking for.

I can put a demo here if you like.

[Teksonik]

Here's a good video for the uninitiated

Wow I'm glad I never wasted any money on a Virus or Nova...........

[mcnoone]

Snappy?
Regardless of ones definition of that.
It is most likely found through creative sound design skills, rather than synth features, and c++ code.
Though synths may have their own character, their own feature set, their particular routings, and even make certain things like "snappy" easier to achieve.
Given a certain almost equal level of features, any synth can achieve the snappy envelope behavior the OP mentioned.
I have heard what I feel is snappy envelope behavior from many synths.
Yet that might not be what the OP would consider snappy.

[recursive one]

While the statements like "you can make anything with any synth if you spend enough time at tweaking and processing" are generally true, it is also true that if you take a right synth from the start, you will spend much less time in tweaking and processing.

Btw, psytrance basslines are very specific task, they sound rather simplistic but they should have absolutely perfect envelope timing and 100% accurate retrigger. Some synths have the right qualities, some others don't (at least unless resampled).

[fluffy_little_something]

I have tried so many plugins (most of which demo version, but still) by now and haven't found anything, yet, that has that nice, noiseless punch Sylenth has. Those envelopes seem carefully set up

Some synths come close, but one has to mess around with phase and what not, so finding the right combination (phase, attack, decay) can take quite some time. I am allergic to both clicks and those short high-frequency blib sounds, as if plugging in headphones.

[chk071]

Snappy?
Regardless of ones definition of that.
It is most likely found through creative sound design skills, rather than synth features, and c++ code.
Though synths may have their own character, their own feature set, their particular routings, and even make certain things like "snappy" easier to achieve.
Given a certain almost equal level of features, any synth can achieve the snappy envelope behavior the OP mentioned.
I have heard what I feel is snappy envelope behavior from many synths.
Yet that might not be what the OP would consider snappy.

Some synths just don't have it, no matter what you do to them. Synthmaster is one of the least "snappy" synths i ever tried. Good luck in getting any snappy sounds of it (or really fat basses). Dune 1/CM/BE is not the most snappy synths either, but already a lot snappier than Synthmaster. While "snappy" for me mostly refers to filter and envelope behavior. Maybe amp envelope too, dunno.

[psmacmur]

After nearly 2 years of One Synth Challenges, I'd have to say that TAL Bassline is the easiest to dial in a snappy psy kick or Kraftwerkian Hi-Q sound.

[Mutant]

Mt definition of snappy: any synth, any sound + 2nd instance with noise oscillator(s), 0 attack and very short decay, tuned LPF to taste.

[do_androids_dream]

Here's a good video for the uninitiated

Wow I'm glad I never wasted any money on a Virus or Nova...........

I do agree that the Nova doesn't sound that great (like all novation synths unfortunately) but can you really not hear/feel the difference between synth1 and the Virus? Is the difference something that isn't worth worrying about to you? Serious question. It is to me but then I'm very, very picky with synths. I don't expect many folks are like me lol.