Stop It
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
Analog is NOT software, software is NOT analog. This argument ended ten years + ago. You are WAY behind in your philosophy if you are still comparing the too as equivalents. Diva is the closest equivalent sound quality wise that I've heard to hardware. Bazille is the closest feature wise to analog that I've heard. Still, these are not hardware.
These developers could built you an equivalent to hardware. They could build you something that could surpass hardware. But you would never be able to play a note on it. The hardware does not exist in quantity to run it. Maybe weather forecasting computers or physics supercomputers could run it. .. but this is beyond reason at the moment.
The better the quality of software the higher the cpu crush. So developers have to rely on design to overcome the obstacles presented to them. This means they have to have a specific skill set. They have to know what sounds good, they have to know how to reproduce that, and they have to know how to element the waste. This is a specific talent that only a few really have because it takes a lot of experience. The rest are imitators and chunking out the same software over and over with different names.
So learn what you have and why you like it. Their is a select group of instruments out there that are truly talented builds and should be appreciated for such. The question of "what is the best" can only be answered by your specific needs, and if you don't hear it or don't notice it there is a reason for that. It doesn't matter. When you sequence and quantize everything and cover it all up with effects and render it to a digital file and then add digital compression on top it doesn't matter anyway.
So Stop.
These developers could built you an equivalent to hardware. They could build you something that could surpass hardware. But you would never be able to play a note on it. The hardware does not exist in quantity to run it. Maybe weather forecasting computers or physics supercomputers could run it. .. but this is beyond reason at the moment.
The better the quality of software the higher the cpu crush. So developers have to rely on design to overcome the obstacles presented to them. This means they have to have a specific skill set. They have to know what sounds good, they have to know how to reproduce that, and they have to know how to element the waste. This is a specific talent that only a few really have because it takes a lot of experience. The rest are imitators and chunking out the same software over and over with different names.
So learn what you have and why you like it. Their is a select group of instruments out there that are truly talented builds and should be appreciated for such. The question of "what is the best" can only be answered by your specific needs, and if you don't hear it or don't notice it there is a reason for that. It doesn't matter. When you sequence and quantize everything and cover it all up with effects and render it to a digital file and then add digital compression on top it doesn't matter anyway.
So Stop.
- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
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- KVRAF
- 5200 posts since 17 Aug, 2004
Why should anyone stop? Aren't you a bit to sensitive? Your base for this useless debate is that real analog is made of components while software synth is not (at least that's how i understood it but it's confusing).Dasheesh wrote:Analog is NOT software, software is NOT analog. This argument ended ten years + ago. You are WAY behind in your philosophy if you are still comparing the too as equivalents. Diva is the closest equivalent sound quality wise that I've heard to hardware. Bazille is the closest feature wise to analog that I've heard. Still, these are not hardware.
These developers could built you an equivalent to hardware. They could build you something that could surpass hardware. But you would never be able to play a note on it. The hardware does not exist in quantity to run it. Maybe weather forecasting computers or physics supercomputers could run it. .. but this is beyond reason at the moment.
The better the quality of software the higher the cpu crush. So developers have to rely on design to overcome the obstacles presented to them. This means they have to have a specific skill set. They have to know what sounds good, they have to know how to reproduce that, and they have to know how to element the waste. This is a specific talent that only a few really have because it takes a lot of experience. The rest are imitators and chunking out the same software over and over with different names.
So learn what you have and why you like it. Their is a select group of instruments out there that are truly talented builds and should be appreciated for such. The question of "what is the best" can only be answered by your specific needs, and if you don't hear it or don't notice it there is a reason for that. It doesn't matter. When you sequence and quantize everything and cover it all up with effects and render it to a digital file and then add digital compression on top it doesn't matter anyway.
So Stop.
And you said you can't play a note on software instrument.
By all stretch of imagination you are wrong.
Access Virus TI is a software in a box. And any person with even the tiny bit of a brain will tell you it's and instrument - because in right hand it (surprise) - is
I think even the less gifted can comprehend that.
You can see and perceive computer just like a component in chain and there you have a midi keyboard and there you have it you can play a note on your instrument in whatever form he/she is. You can even send signal via soundcard to analog mixer (surprise) so even the most partizans of you can not argue signal from mixer is analog (i know it's a stupid trick but this is stupid debate so i couldn't resist)..
Btw last time i checked nobody ever sold Bazille or Diva as hardware? Are you ok really?
If there's anything needed to be stopped then that is - people trying to tell other people what should be stopped -
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- KVRAF
- 22872 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
The last part pretty much sums up how I feel about this whole beat to death debate.
In other words, yawn.
In other words, yawn.
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do_androids_dream do_androids_dream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164034
- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
In a word - 'No'. You have no authority to tell people to stop talking about it. How would developers continue the crusade to match hardware without being able to discuss it?Dasheesh wrote:Analog is NOT software, software is NOT analog. This argument ended ten years + ago. You are WAY behind in your philosophy if you are still comparing the too as equivalents. Diva is the closest equivalent sound quality wise that I've heard to hardware. Bazille is the closest feature wise to analog that I've heard. Still, these are not hardware.
These developers could built you an equivalent to hardware. They could build you something that could surpass hardware. But you would never be able to play a note on it. The hardware does not exist in quantity to run it. Maybe weather forecasting computers or physics supercomputers could run it. .. but this is beyond reason at the moment.
The better the quality of software the higher the cpu crush. So developers have to rely on design to overcome the obstacles presented to them. This means they have to have a specific skill set. They have to know what sounds good, they have to know how to reproduce that, and they have to know how to element the waste. This is a specific talent that only a few really have because it takes a lot of experience. The rest are imitators and chunking out the same software over and over with different names.
So learn what you have and why you like it. Their is a select group of instruments out there that are truly talented builds and should be appreciated for such. The question of "what is the best" can only be answered by your specific needs, and if you don't hear it or don't notice it there is a reason for that. It doesn't matter. When you sequence and quantize everything and cover it all up with effects and render it to a digital file and then add digital compression on top it doesn't matter anyway.
So Stop.
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do_androids_dream do_androids_dream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164034
- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
So why do so many developers use it as a marketing strategy?Dasheesh wrote:Analog is NOT software, software is NOT analog.
- KVRAF
- 19778 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Yet here you are carrying on that same argument........Dasheesh wrote:This argument ended ten years + ago.
And once again the MYTH that hardware is superior to software is perpetuated......Dasheesh wrote:Diva is the closest equivalent sound quality wise that I've heard to hardware. Bazille is the closest feature wise to analog that I've heard. Still, these are not hardware.
Yea you should follow your own advice.............Dasheesh wrote:So Stop.
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None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 43897 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Are all U-HE fanboys this hissy?
Some developers can achieve extraordinary results without resorting to massive CPU overheads. Take GForce for example.
Some developers can achieve extraordinary results without resorting to massive CPU overheads. Take GForce for example.
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
- KVRAF
- 19778 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Because that's what punters like you buy...........Dasheesh wrote:
So why do so many developers use it as a marketing strategy?
I wonder.
(learn how to quote)
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
Don't you see, he prefers analogue quotingTeksonik wrote: (learn how to quote)
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try
- KVRAF
- 22872 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
and here comes yet another train wreck.
