Radio rip versions of songs vs Original versions (official versions)
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- KVRer
- 12 posts since 2 Jul, 2014
Hello, I am curious because when I listen to the radio rip, it sounds different to the official version of the song (the mid frequencies are much lower and the bass is higher).
For example, if you listen to avicii's essential mix bbc radio 1, it sounds like that.
Then if you listen to the same songs from the essential mix anywhere else, it sounds different.
My question is: Does the producer of the song actually make it sound like that (like the radio rip)?
I really like that sound from the radio rip so i've been mixing my tracks the same way.
Thanks.
For example, if you listen to avicii's essential mix bbc radio 1, it sounds like that.
Then if you listen to the same songs from the essential mix anywhere else, it sounds different.
My question is: Does the producer of the song actually make it sound like that (like the radio rip)?
I really like that sound from the radio rip so i've been mixing my tracks the same way.
Thanks.
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do_androids_dream do_androids_dream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164034
- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
Mix engineers of high profile pop sometimes do radio versions and album versions of mixes. What you're hearing there is the mix going through R1's processing chain - typically multiband compression and limiting.
- KVRAF
- 4589 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
Often producer is asked to provide radio mix of club song just because it's shorter and starts immediatelly. I know a bunch of tunes that are actually better / more interesting in radio versions, but not DJ-friendly.
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Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
Tricky-Loops wrote: (...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
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do_androids_dream do_androids_dream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164034
- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
I was talking more about different processing - radio/tv mixes may be more heavily compressed/limited or have different eq decisions to make certain things pop out more like a vocal or a synth line.DJ Warmonger wrote:Often producer is asked to provide radio mix of club song just because it's shorter and starts immediatelly. I know a bunch of tunes that are actually better / more interesting in radio versions, but not DJ-friendly.
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UltimateOutsider UltimateOutsider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=216800
- KVRian
- 824 posts since 5 Oct, 2009 from Portland, OR
No, anything coming out of a major radio station goes through all sorts of processing to ensure consistent levels & sound and to meet regulatory standards. The actual transmission/broadcast/reception of a radio signal probably imparts certain qualities to the sound at different stages, as well. But I've personally never heard of anyone doing a "radio mix" that was actually mixed/processed differently; as others have said, that usually means it's a special edit for time and/or content reasons.devTr4P wrote:My question is: Does the producer of the song actually make it sound like that (like the radio rip)?
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do_androids_dream do_androids_dream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164034
- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
It wasn't that common (mainly in the 90's for some reason) but it did happen for some records. Sometimes the mix for a single (so the version that was sent out for broadcast) would have a different mix from the album version.UltimateOutsider wrote:No, anything coming out of a major radio station goes through all sorts of processing to ensure consistent levels & sound and to meet regulatory standards. The actual transmission/broadcast/reception of a radio signal probably imparts certain qualities to the sound at different stages, as well. But I've personally never heard of anyone doing a "radio mix" that was actually mixed/processed differently; as others have said, that usually means it's a special edit for time and/or content reasons.devTr4P wrote:My question is: Does the producer of the song actually make it sound like that (like the radio rip)?
- KVRAF
- 16858 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
If you compare a radio "rip" (actually recorded from a receiver) with another version, you'll notice what the broadcasting processor has done with it: multi-band compression, limiting, fast & slow in series.
Personally I find it's mutilated, but each to tgeir own...
Personally I find it's mutilated, but each to tgeir own...
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do_androids_dream do_androids_dream https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164034
- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
It's a sound I grew up with so it's strangely familiar and pleasing when I hear it. I remember reading an FSOL interview where they explained that they loved 'double baked' compression - hearing their tracks go through R1's processing after they've done their own compression.BertKoor wrote:If you compare a radio "rip" (actually recorded from a receiver) with another version, you'll notice what the broadcasting processor has done with it: multi-band compression, limiting, fast & slow in series.
Personally I find it's mutilated, but each to tgeir own...
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- KVRAF
- 6473 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
Want that radio sound? Go here: http://www.stereotool.com
I think the free version does the phase rotation stuff for bass as well as the full-on multiband compression.
I think the free version does the phase rotation stuff for bass as well as the full-on multiband compression.