I'm interested in seeing some examples of satire-as-music, and inside jokes to musicians. What have you guys got?
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Somethin to kick it off, what got me thinking about this:
I heard Knife Party's album, , and listened through. By the end, I was stunned at what looks to me like an expertly crafted, committed work of satire, throughout nearly the whole album. It seems both cynical and loving at the same time. And I feel kinda icky having typed that sentence, in all it's pretentiousness, but there it is.
The intro track's dialogue is self-depreciating reduction of their music, maybe expressing a love/hate relationship with electronic music. Maybe in-line with their album name, describing the state of 'the scene,' as a sinking ship.
'Resistance' is a kinda paint-by-numbers, but well crafted peak-hour bigroom goop. Same crap, new name, a well refined assembly line product. Check the box on a genre/trend.
'Bossmode' starts with a kinda classically Pendulum intro, true in style to what I recall of their discography, but makes a tongue-in-cheek switch into a trend-compatible grimey/mumbahton/whatever, and overtly lampooning the complete lack of compositional sophistication @ 2:42. Paint by numbers again, well crafted again, check the box on another top-trend style.
'EDM Trend Machine' renders it overt in the title. The drop/switch @ 1:50 is brilliant, as no one's expecting(or wanting?) them to make deep house. Again, check the box, and quite good, while still being painfully stereotypical. I really like this song, even while it renders the sameness in the deep house trend impossible to ignore.
'Give It Up' once again, feels cynically paint-by-numbers, kinda reminds me John B's - Just throw together all the cliches. Yet it's still effective and well made. Same with 'DIMH'.
'Superstar' got a great moment @ 1:20. Mocking the average audience, and I love it. Also very well made, and very stereotypical. I love that staple 1,2,3,CLAPCLAP. Can't NOT have it... Check another style box.
Right, enough of that. Maybe I'm overthinking it and imagining things, and some elements I see as satire are honest works. And maybe I'm a few months late. Well meh, I like my interpretation, and hugely impressed by the guys and with the overall vision of the album that this interpretation implies. Or maybe this was obvious and I'm the last to see it. Or maybe I'm a nitwit.
In the meantime... Any other works of satire in music you guys can point toward me? Because for how much I enjoyed that album, I'll probably like it elsewhere.
Inside jokes in music
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Post-modernism caught up with music ?MOK19 wrote:I heard Knife Party's album, , and listened through. By the end, I was stunned at what looks to me like an expertly crafted, committed work of satire, throughout nearly the whole album. It seems both cynical and loving at the same time.
In the town I live I see more posters promoting stand up comedy than concerts
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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
check my profile, "mr. entertainment," that's pretty "inside".
"music" as people often understand it is a product of society - the market doesn't much support items outside, "dictated by the predeliction of consumers" doubtless..
how can i say this without stigmatising it for you.. a variety of artist responses to culture can be classified as "antimusic," or more often, against the one direction paradigm of consumerism (memetics isn't cat pictures dude).
"antimusic" often attempts to break the reverie of the listener by challenging expectations. hopefully one will realise how crassly manipulative and narrow in scope this alleged "activity" of "enjoying music" is,
in the hopes that you can reclaim some part of life,
to be present and listen to the world without a prerecording
(there could be some sort of paradigmatic benefit to owning your attention)
to be free of the appealing notions presented to you
however, it's a different era. yesterday us kids thought we were handing it to the man to listen to negativland or the residents or non ("journey through cheese is advanced antimusic... when you understand it, you can snatch the pebble).
really though, sarcasm is pretty intrinsic to the entertainers contract and routine. a bit of jocular sarcasm makes the audience feel intelligent and therefore comfortable that they are in charge of their perceptions and that the experience is merely entertaining and won't beguile them. you know dude i've been writing this shit on kvr since 2002? so maybe i can quit typing now and you get it.
"music" as people often understand it is a product of society - the market doesn't much support items outside, "dictated by the predeliction of consumers" doubtless..
how can i say this without stigmatising it for you.. a variety of artist responses to culture can be classified as "antimusic," or more often, against the one direction paradigm of consumerism (memetics isn't cat pictures dude).
"antimusic" often attempts to break the reverie of the listener by challenging expectations. hopefully one will realise how crassly manipulative and narrow in scope this alleged "activity" of "enjoying music" is,
in the hopes that you can reclaim some part of life,
to be present and listen to the world without a prerecording
(there could be some sort of paradigmatic benefit to owning your attention)
to be free of the appealing notions presented to you
however, it's a different era. yesterday us kids thought we were handing it to the man to listen to negativland or the residents or non ("journey through cheese is advanced antimusic... when you understand it, you can snatch the pebble).
really though, sarcasm is pretty intrinsic to the entertainers contract and routine. a bit of jocular sarcasm makes the audience feel intelligent and therefore comfortable that they are in charge of their perceptions and that the experience is merely entertaining and won't beguile them. you know dude i've been writing this shit on kvr since 2002? so maybe i can quit typing now and you get it.
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