KVR Audio

george · Post by **george** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:40 pm

fmr wrote:Sampling a VSTi didn't work either. I can load the plug-in, define what I want, but when I hit OK... nothing happens.

Try using a 32-bit host with 32-bit plug-ins. There are some issues to be fixed yet. Beta 2 has a bunch of them solved. I will be grateful if you could say host / os / etc, thanks!

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:44 pm

George wrote:
fmr wrote:Sampling a VSTi didn't work either. I can load the plug-in, define what I want, but when I hit OK... nothing happens.
Try using a 32-bit host with 32-bit plug-ins. There are some issues to be fixed yet. Beta 2 has a bunch of them solved. I will be grateful if you could say host / os / etc, thanks!

That's what i did: VSThost 32-bit and I loaded Arturia Matrix-12 V. I always start testing with 32-bit, and only when I don't find problems do I proceed to 64-bit. Seems like this is in need of some serious testing and debugging

(it's OK, you stated that it was a Beta)

BTW: Should the hosted plug-in play? Because the M12 didn't even make any sound whatsoever.
EDIT: Tried another, and now I got sound - but it sounds terrible. Lot's of noise, as if the host cannot process enough (yet, total CPU load was below 50%). The plug-in I tested was the Admiral Quality Poly-Ana. Again, this part seems in need of some work too.

george · Post by **george** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:45 pm

fmr wrote:That's what i did: VSThost 32-bit and I loaded Arturia Matrix-12 V. I always start testing with 32-bit, and only when I don't find problems do I proceed to 64-bit. Seems like this is in need of some serious testing and debugging (it's OK, you stated that it was a Beta)
BTW: Should the hosted plug-in play? Because the M12 didn't even make any so8und whatsoever.

Perfect! We have some starting point now

Thank you

Yes, it should play. Not doing it is a indicator of not doing good at all.

StudioDave · Post by **StudioDave** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:47 pm

George wrote:
StudioDave wrote:... Is there a Linux host known to run the demo ?
Renoise will run Bliss perfectly. If possible send over the crash logs located at Documents > discoDSP > Bliss folder so we can figure out what's happening.

I'll check Renoise, I'm a registered user but have to find my license around here somewhere.

Have already sent the log.

Btw, system details: Fedora 19, x86_64, with PlanetCCRMA extensions.

Best,

dp

george · Post by **george** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:49 pm

StudioDave wrote: I'll check Renoise, I'm a registered user but have to find my license around here somewhere.

Have already sent the log.

Btw, system details: Fedora 19, x86_64, with PlanetCCRMA extensions.

Best,

dp

Ok thanks, license.dat can be dragged to plugin GUI by the way.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:51 pm

I tested u-he DIVA and Hive within Studio One. Sampling them worked fine.

With that said, I only once was able to successfully open their own interfaces (usually a black screen shows up). Also, it'd be nice to know where the samples are stored. Finally, it's a little confusing that you have to unload the VSTi after sampling it, I would think that Bliss would immediately switch to its own engine once the VSTi has been sampled.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:54 pm

George wrote:
fmr wrote:That's what i did: VSThost 32-bit and I loaded Arturia Matrix-12 V. I always start testing with 32-bit, and only when I don't find problems do I proceed to 64-bit. Seems like this is in need of some serious testing and debugging (it's OK, you stated that it was a Beta)
BTW: Should the hosted plug-in play? Because the M12 didn't even make any so8und whatsoever.
Perfect! We have some starting point now Thank you Yes, it should play. Not doing it is a indicator of not doing good at all.

So, I got Poly-Ana to work, but it sounded not OK. So, I loaded DeXed. Again, it didn't sound OK. But I decided to sample it anyway. Sampling WORKED. And it plays good. Seems like, in spite of not being able to use the plug-in, it can sample it OK. "Houston, we have a lift-off!"

EDIT: I reloaded DeXed, and now it plays OK...

I can't explain what happened.

george · Post by **george** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:54 pm

Uncle E wrote:With that said, I only once was able to successfully open their own interfaces (usually a black screen shows up).

Beta 2 has fixed a bunch of plugin hosting so it's very likely to be fixed.

Also, it'd be nice to know where the samples are stored.

RAM until they are exported to disk.

Finally, it's a little confusing that you have to unload the VSTi after sampling it, I would think that Bliss would immediately switch to its own engine once the VSTi has been sampled.

Ok, noted. Thanks!

george · Post by **george** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:55 pm

fmr wrote:So, I got Poly-Ana to work, but it sounded not OK. So, I loaded DeXed. Again, it didn't sound OK. But I decided to sample it anyway. Sampling WORKED. And it plays good. Seems like, in spite of not being able to use the plug-in, it can sample it OK. "Houston, we have a lift-off!"

Nice nice

By the way never had any issues with Dexed here on the Mac by the way

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:00 pm

George wrote:
fmr wrote:So, I got Poly-Ana to work, but it sounded not OK. So, I loaded DeXed. Again, it didn't sound OK. But I decided to sample it anyway. Sampling WORKED. And it plays good. Seems like, in spite of not being able to use the plug-in, it can sample it OK. "Houston, we have a lift-off!"
Nice nice By the way never had any issues with Dexed here on the Mac by the way

Read what I posted above... Can't explain...

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:02 pm

George wrote:
Uncle E wrote:Finally, it's a little confusing that you have to unload the VSTi after sampling it, I would think that Bliss would immediately switch to its own engine once the VSTi has been sampled.
Ok, noted. Thanks!

yes, I second this. Although, as a workaround, I opened the editor, and reduced the volume of the plug-in to 0, to be able to just listen to the sampler. It's a workaround, but it works.

george · Post by **george** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:03 pm

fmr wrote:Read what I posted above... Can't explain...

From what I understand hosting does the sampling just fine but there are issues with real time audio output.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:12 pm

Another thing. I cannot edit the tail duration. I tried to sample a patch that has a long and interesting release part, but it was cut in the sampling process.There is a tail parameter, but it is grey.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:14 pm

George wrote:
fmr wrote:Read what I posted above... Can't explain...
From what I understand hosting does the sampling just fine but there are issues with real time audio output.

There were, but not anymore). It seems Bliss got used to it's host (VSThost) and they decided to coexist peacefully - maybe because I turned off the oversampling, that I was using first - clue?

george · Post by **george** » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:15 pm

fmr wrote:There were, but not anymore). It seems Bliss got used to it's host (VSThost) and they decided to coexist peacefully - maybe because I turned off the oversampling, that I was using first - clue?

Hmm could be... investigation time

Bliss 2 sampler