KVR Audio

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:30 pm

hey guys this distressor sample was used in a other forum for a shoutout , i hope there is nothing wrong for me to use it there ( if it's a problem i remove the file)

One is the distressor one is plugins.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/510 ... ed%201.wav

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/510 ... ed%202.wav

Treshold and timing could be better matched but the aim was not recreate the exact sound ,just to get a sound where it's not easy , i would say maybe even impossible to spot the hardware in term of quality difference on this loop and for that kind of sound , Maybe yes maybe not? i would be curious about what you think about this ?

If the link are not working try to right click and save.

here the dry file if anyone want to give it a try

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/510 ... 0Drums.wav

patcub · Post by **patcub** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:09 pm

Hi,

what plugin did you use?

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:16 pm

patcub wrote:Hi,

what plugin did you use?

hi, i used DC8C as compressor and sir audio standard clip as the distressor dist mod sound like some sort of clipper to me.

if anyone downlaoded the file please redownload i messed up with the exports , sorry for this guys..

it's not a serious test anyway.. just fun and i have to say i m amazed by klanghelm work... and the sir audio standard clip is great too

4tune · Post by **4tune** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:18 pm

I preferred 1 here.

Like you say they don`t sound perfectly matched, but 1 sounded more cohesive and less splashy. More definition overall. 2 also sounded harsher in the highs but that could have been truer to the source.

Wouldn`t have a clue how to say which was which but at those settings I`d take 1.

edit: re-downloaded in case missed wav being re-posted, but still preferred 1

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:25 pm

4tune wrote:I preferred 1 here.

Like you say they don`t sound perfectly matched, but 1 sounded more cohesive and less splashy. More definition overall. 2 also sounded harsher in the highs but that could have been truer to the source.

Wouldn`t have a clue how to say which was which but at those settings I`d take 1.

hi 4tune thanks for your input, it's what i feel too about the sound difference but can you try to redownload the file i did a wrong export of the files , now it should exhibit a bit less difference i think and it's peak matched

4tune · Post by **4tune** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:34 pm

Ok re-download in other browser, to make sure no caching issues. It does seem a harder choice now.

1 seems to have more weight than 2. 2 seems a lot clearer now and less harsh than it was (but not less harsh than 1). I`m still emotionally drawn to 1 for that thunk on the bass drum but it`s a good match!

ImNotDedYet · Post by **ImNotDedYet** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:46 pm

It's tough to judge because they still don't sound evenly matched.

2 sounds like it's hitting it harder and is a bit louder, although it sounds like it's also retaining the transients of the tom/snare better, and the hats are more better defined. I think the timing of the release may have been off too, especially in 1.

And by the way, the new Sli Fi Deflector plug is a pretty good Distressor type compressor.

HcDoom · Post by **HcDoom** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:54 pm

1 sounds too squashed, especially on double kick drums...and 2 sounds more clear and controlled with obviously less GR. Both sound good...I really cannot say which one is hw and which one is sw.

But if I would have to pick between this two...I would say no.2!!!

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:16 pm

ImNotDedYet wrote:It's tough to judge because they still don't sound evenly matched.

2 sounds like it's hitting it harder and is a bit louder, although it sounds like it's also retaining the transients of the tom/snare better, and the hats are more better defined. I think the timing of the release may have been off too, especially in 1.

And by the way, the new Sli Fi Deflector plug is a pretty good Distressor type compressor.

i tried to match these but it's not easy there is lot of Gain reduction, i should have wait tomorrow with fresh ears to fine tune , i made music all day long i think the more i tweaked the more i was making things sound worst at that point.
it was easy to make the plugins sound better but it was not my aim .. the hardware could probably sound better too tweaked differently... i just wanted to check if it was possible to recreate a similar sound, and if the depth/3d ect would be there with the soft.

about the sound difference yes it s what i feel too , one may retain the transient slighty better cause in fact it s brighter i think, i could be wrong but i think it s cause about freq response mostly

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:31 pm

HcDoom wrote:1 sounds too squashed, especially on double kick drums...and 2 sounds more clear and controlled with obviously less GR. Both sound good...I really cannot say which one is hw and which one is sw. But if I would have to pick between this two...I would say no.2!!!

yes i think it's impossible to know cause both exhibit some hardware quality ( except if you are familiar with the distressor ), about the sound agree too with the difference you mention i hear the same .

with dc8c + sdrr it would have been intresting.

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:47 pm

4tune wrote:Ok re-download in other browser, to make sure no caching issues. It does seem a harder choice now.

1 seems to have more weight than 2.

yes a slighty different caractere between both comps.

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:03 pm

the 1 is the plugins
the difference i notice in this case (i also own a distressor ) the plugs combo is slighty more round with more weight and the distressor is brighter.

4tune · Post by **4tune** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:10 pm

Interesting!

certainly an achievement for the plugin combo from where I`m standing!

.. though I would have to say that having chosen 1 each time

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:17 pm

here the first plugin sample i uploaded , i think it may be better than the one i replaced it with..less squashed (and it s a bit lower in volume need slight boost to compare maybe)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/510 ... ed%203.wav

have to say the dc8c is very good..to get there thought me 3 minutes, i just put complex mode , treshold, slight attack and release and was in similar theritory.. like i mentioned i had no problem to make the plugins sound better than the distressor sample set up with mroe groovy timing..but it was not the aim and it don't mean anything, as the hardware could probably sound better too with some different settings. ( better timings for example or a other ratio) so i tweaked till both were close enought with no clear winners.

will try to match the transient, these are strong in the distressor clip

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:07 pm

Synthetic Wav wrote:
will try to match the transient, these are strong in the distressor clip

i used to much softcliping that part of the difference in the attack, also i forgot i had set the oversampling filter in the cliper to low .

Distressor vs plugins