Native Instruments released Reaktor 6 !

[yul]

Now multicore CPU support really? How to get anything done then?

Will a Reaktor VST plugin allow this support via the DAW?

[Touch The Universe]

Any videos pop up showing the process of creating blocks from other ensembles?

[mostlyjustj]

Now multicore CPU support really? How to get anything done then?

Will a Reaktor VST plugin allow this support via the DAW?

Of course everything will work as normal with multicore support in your daw... people are just being a little mellodramatic about there being no multicore support *within* the reaktor vst.

Given how complex ensembles can get, and how much freedom you'd like to give to developers to go crazy this is a fair request... but those people saying it's 'ridiculous' not to offer multicore support in 2016, etc. etc. are overstating things since multicore support within a vst is certainly the exception, not the rule - plus I'm sure with a modern processor, you'll be able to run some crazy reaktor beasts alongside many other VSTs in your daw just as always, *especially* given that performance enhancements within the individual reaktor modules is one of the prominently advertised features. Also you can see ed's explanation in regards to the design issues involved in making Reaktor multicore.

Reaktor has always been a very functional platform for people with reasonably fast computers, and that doesn't seem to be about to change, so relax...

[digitalboytn]

You wait until Komplete 11. Anyone who has used komplete for a long long time know to wait.

That's the smart move to make

Traditionally,Komplete has offered substantial updates every second cycle...

The updates in between those ones are for the die hards and the fan boys...

And there's plenty of folks around who will buy anything that is released

[audio/fault]

Update price : Most people seem to consider Reaktor as *a part of Komplete* ( And so do I btw ) , but I know some guys who only have Reaktor, or only a couple of NI things. I think for this hardcore Reaktor fans, NI has put the cursor right where it was meant to be to make them happy.

not really. to pay half the price of the new version, that is half the price of the old version is a little bit disproportionately in my opinion...
i got reaktor and kontakt and thought about selling one to get komplete (no special upgrade price for having both) or selling both when i got maschine (soon) and get komplete. in best cases i might get 50€ for reaktor 5. seems like i should sell kontakt before kontakt 6 is available for 200€...

i really like the idea of the blocks as i never was a hardcore reaktor-programmer. so all in all the update is really interesting to me.

[db3]

I was concerned about lack of multi-core support in R6, but I think I've misunderstood the Reaktor CPU gauge. I was just testing Polyplex in R5 and each instance showed 30%+ cpu. So I added 4 instances and each showed the same CPU usage, whereas my DAW only showed around 40% in total.

So, my assumption is that each Reaktor instance is only showing CPU use for a single core, and my i7 can therefore run many instances without too much trouble so long as the DAW supports multi-core CPU.

[whyterabbyt]

Its been less than a day, and Im already miffed that, as a Komplete owner, Im basically having to wait until K11 comes out to get this instead of owning it already.

[FarleyCZ]

I can't justify the price. I'm really trying to, but I can't. Everyone with a single Reaktor license will upgrade now, so when K11 (or K10.5 or whatever) comes out, I don't think I'll be able to sell the "upgrade license" alone. It's sad there isn't third pricing option for K10 buyers that would make a bit more sense. Or e-voucher allowance, mine is about to expire too...

Sad we have to wait, but it really isn't justifyable for people who bought K10 upgrade two months ago. Reaktor 5 is still really cool modular powerhouse, so I don't think we'll miss too much anyway!

...only when Twisted Tools come out with something really cool, but Reaktor 6 only. That might force me to may be reconsider this descision.

[mostlyjustj]

I was concerned about lack of multi-core support in R6, but I think I've misunderstood the Reaktor CPU gauge...

....

...So, my assumption is that each Reaktor instance is only showing CPU use for a single core, and my i7 can therefore run many instances without too much trouble so long as the DAW supports multi-core CPU.

Yes. This. Exactly. Multicore support within Reaktor would be really cool/useful for those wanting the freedom to create/use outrageously complex designs, or maybe for beginners who want to pay no attention to efficiency whatsoever while creating multiple sprawling modular beasts to add colour to already full blown compositions... but otherwise anybody with a machine geared toward making music (ie an i7 processor) will be just fine.

[Ingonator]

While Reaktor 6 looks interesting i am not 100% sure if i REALLY need to upgrade soon. Currently i still got Komplete 6 and additionally Monark as a single instrument.
In the past i alraedy made my own instrument/ensemble based on the Monark filter so that is not really new for me (while this seems to be more simple with Reakktor 6).

My thread where i explained how to use the Monark filter in your own ensembles is already more than 2 years old now:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=387662

[Terri Dactyl]

Yes. This. Exactly. Multicore support within Reaktor would be really cool/useful for those wanting the freedom to create/use outrageously complex designs, or maybe for beginners who want to pay no attention to efficiency whatsoever while creating multiple sprawling modular beasts to add colour to already full blown compositions... but otherwise anybody with a machine geared toward making music (ie an i7 processor) will be just fine.

It a bit limiting though, and for many this is the whole point of Reaktor, so NO Multi-Core is a shame. i would love to see some ensembles pushing the frontier and maxing out all cores with absurd complexity.

Its not so much now thats the problem.. but over the few next years many studios will be upgrading to 16 cores and beyond. At that point it will become more and more of a joke to still use a single core platform. hope it gets a fix before then!

[EvilDragon]

As mentioned before, multicore is not as easy as it sounds in a fully modular framework that is Reaktor. It's completely the opposite.

Complete modularity with feedback kinda hampers parallel processing, which is what multicore is all about. Still, you can utilize your cores in your DAW - have one instance of Reaktor for each ensemble, and you'll be fine. Works perfectly already even now.

[Terri Dactyl]

Oh yeah, i totally understand - can't help but feel disapointed though.. Reaktor is still awesome , the devs are all genius...maybe if its beyond the human mind, some A.I. quantum computer will be able to code the multi-core Reaktor in the future!

[Captain]

Bought the upgrade (fully aware that I'll kick myself hard if/when Komplete 11 is released any time soon), now waiting for NI's pigeon to bring me the serial number. Can't help but wonder... I guess everything in the purchase process is handled 100% automatically and without human interaction. My purchase was immediately listed under "order history" on NI website. Still, I have to wait for my serial? Is someone typing it by hand? "Wait, this one is already in use... I'll change a few numbers.. no, it's still too similar..."

Anyway, I didn't even watch all the videos yet, but just the ability to resize the window on the fly was worth the upgrade price! Well, almost.

The only (big) thing I am still really missing in Reaktor is some kind of scripting / programming language. I know it would change things a lot, and would definitely require some fundamental re-thinking and re-coding of Reaktor. But when creating ensembles, I constantly find myself fighting with things that would be super simple in any text-based programming language (loops, branching, etc.). Just creating a simple for-loop in a graphical environment seems to go radically against my way of thinking. And it would take about two seconds to write it in code. Maybe a traditional programming language is against the core (pun not intended) idea of Reaktor, and we will never see it, who knows... But combining the amazing graphical environment with code would turn Reaktor into something really powerful. One can always hope!

[whyterabbyt]

The only (big) thing I am still really missing in Reaktor is some kind of scripting / programming language. I know it would change things a lot, and would definitely require some fundamental re-thinking and re-coding of Reaktor. But when creating ensembles, I constantly find myself fighting with things that would be super simple in any text-based programming language (loops, branching, etc.). Just creating a simple for-loop in a graphical environment seems to go radically against my way of thinking. And it would take about two seconds to write it in code. Maybe a traditional programming language is against the core (pun not intended) idea of Reaktor, and we will never see it, who knows... But combining the amazing graphical environment with code would turn Reaktor into something really powerful. One can always hope!

I honestly thought R6 might bring in some sort of scripting, but just for the UI side of things. However with Reaktor ensembles being modular, its obviously a much more complex proposition than in Kontakt.