KVR Audio

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:42 am

Hey guys,

This looks really interesting. What do you think? I'm downloading the demo right now, I just hope its as least as cool as Aquestone plug-in.

AE_Daisy.jpg

http://www.plogue.com/products/alterego/

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:01 am

Certainly interesting if it's free.

Looking forward to your recordings

emef · Post by **emef** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:29 am

i've been using chipspeech for a while, great vocal synth
really liking the new Daisy voice in alter/ego
looking forward to seeing more voice banks for this

Touch The Universe · Post by **Touch The Universe** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:33 am

I've been playing with it and it is much much deeper than aquestone. It sounds really lovely for sure

Just add a nice reverb and a little delay and this thing can sing quite beautifully and exotic.

Good Times Ahead · Post by **Good Times Ahead** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:05 pm

I can only guess what this does, and I would think that I am guessing right considering Emef makes reference to vocal synths. Wow, it has a cool looking interface, may as well give it a whirl! You say you are using it? It sounds lovely you say? Looking forward to it! Thank you for posting

bharris22 · Post by **bharris22** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:20 pm

Are there sound samples available anywhere?

davidv@plogue · Post by **davidv@plogue** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:26 pm

bharris22 wrote:Are there sound samples available anywhere?

These are not samples.
Alter/Ego is a real-time phoneme synthesizer. The Daisy data-bank is 200MB.

If you mean example songs, the beta testers (including the voice provider's examples) are here:
https://soundcloud.com/chipsounds/sets/daisy

bharris22 · Post by **bharris22** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:50 pm

That is exactly what I meant - thanks.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:50 pm

I know I'm gonna get hell for this post but I have to be honest about my feelings on all this Vocaloid stuff and not just this particular product.

It's nice. For anime I guess it can work. But my problem is, I can't sing to save my life and I'd like to put together a demo of one of my songs using artificial intelligence. Problem is, it still sounds robotic. Some of the words I can get but some are totally unintelligible. The vocoder sound is not as prevalent on some words but on others it's very distinguishable.

In short, I can't possibly use this to put together a demo for an industry professional to hear. I'm not sure Vocaloid Diva is that much better but it is an improvement. Some of the demos I've heard I would say are maybe 75% there as far as usability. I'd give this product a 50% at best.

Ironically, the actual vocal quality of the singer on this product I like better than Cyber Diva. But the grammar just isn't there yet.

I don't know if the technology will ever be there, at least not in my life time.

I'm not knocking this product for what it does and I can see some uses for it. But it's not something I can use for what I need to do.

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:00 pm

wagtunes wrote: I don't know if the technology will ever be there, at least not in my life time.

Will be there faster than you think.

At this point of course those 'gimmicks' are not a replacement for a real singer, but a stylish addition for a special kind of music some people like to produce.

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:05 pm

I just demoed it for a couple of minutes, and it certainly does sound gooooood, but what I don't understand, how it is different from Chipspeech. Do I "need" both, if I already own Chipspeech?

Mac of BIOnighT · Post by **Mac of BIOnighT** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:06 pm

Bug report: there seems to be a problem with saving and loading patches, when I try to load a patch I get an "unknown error". I'm on an old dual-core pentium 4 and run cubase sx.
Other than that, this thing is simply beautiful and very suggestive sounding! )

Cubasesx.exe Version Version 1.0.5.61 - 10.9.2015 15:58
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Timestamp is 3deb60f6 (Mon Dec 02 14:32:38 2002)
C:\Programmi\Steinberg\Cubase SX\Cubasesx.exe
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Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION
Fault address: 00A82154 01:00681154 C:\Programmi\Steinberg\Cubase SX\Cubasesx.exe

Registers:
EAX=00000008 ECX=0aaaefd0 EDX=00c98138 EBX=ffffffff ESI=0aaaefd0 EDI= 00cc74d8
EBP=0aaaefb0 EIP=00a82154 ESP=0012f870 CS= 0000001b SS= 00000023 Flags=00210202
DS= 00000023 ES= 00000023 FS= 0000003b GS= 00000000

Float Save:
Control Word= ffff027f Status Word= ffff0000 Tag Word=ffffffff
Error Offset= 0b252d6e Error Selector=06ff001b
Data Offset= 0012f84c Data Selector= ffff0023
Cr0NpxState= 00000000

Bytes at CS:EIP:
8b 00 85 c0 75 05 a1 74 15 e7 00 57 6a ff 50 8d
4c 24 1c e8 24 4f ff ff 8b 7c 24 34 8d 4c 24 1c

Call stack:
Address Frame Logical addr Module
00A82154 0AAAEFB0 0001:00681154 C:\Programmi\Steinberg\Cubase SX\Cubasesx.exe

arkmabat · Post by **arkmabat** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:18 pm

No samples?! Pardon my language but that's fu%$ing amazing. In 10 years will singers have real computer competition?! Wow!

davidv@plogue · Post by **davidv@plogue** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:25 pm

arkmabat wrote:No samples?! Pardon my language but that's fu%$ing amazing. In 10 years will singers have real computer competition?! Wow!

I meant that its not just a bunch of wavs. Its not a sample player.
Its re-synthesis of real recordings (from Crusher-P's own voice), processed to great ends and converted into a huge database.

beely · Post by **beely** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:28 pm

Well, it really does sound terrible.

However, what's worse, is that contemporary pop singers, even good ones, more and more are being "produced" into this robotic crap, which kinda works in Plogue's favour ( ! )

Twenty years down the line, this technology could evolve into something quite scarily good. For now, it's just a gimmicky novelty with no value for anyone who wants to produce anything lifelike.

Plogue: Alter/Ego Voice Singing Synth- Free!