KVR Audio

Mac of BIOnighT · Post by **Mac of BIOnighT** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:59 pm

Karma_tba wrote: I've got jeans that old.......should I not wear them if they are comfy and still fit?

Exactly my point of view

Mac of BIOnighT · Post by **Mac of BIOnighT** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:02 pm

Cochrane wrote: 15-years for a software are frankly a bit too much for thinking someone has to test for it

Of course, I do not expect anybody to test their vst on the ancient stuff I use

I was just reporting this issue because I thought it could be useful to identify other issues that might affect others...
Has anybody tested the save/load function, just to check whether it's only me having this problem?

ftech · Post by **ftech** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:02 pm

I'll be downloading this soon. Demos sound great!

One thing I have found with Chipspeech (besides adjusting the start timing of words that a couple of people here at KVR mentioned, and has made my results much better) is that it sometimes pays to spell words phonetically, or even split them into smaller, syllable size chunks to get a good result.

Mac of BIOnighT · Post by **Mac of BIOnighT** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:08 pm

Regarding the fact that it doesn't sound like a human being:
This sounds just as ridiculous as people saying, so many years ago, that a Moog synthesizer and all the other synths were crap because they didn't sound like "real" instruments. It just so happens that those sounds are now classics in their own right. If I want a track to sound like a singer, I sing, if I can't sing I learn to sing, if I don't want to learn I hire a singer. From an instrument like this, I expect myself to be able to get creative, surprising, useful, different things to add to my music. From what very little I've had the time to hear, this instrument has a lot of scope, it's suggestive and interesting, think outside the box and you can squeeze some amazing stuff out of it.
Once again, the limit is the musician, not the instrument...

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:29 pm

interesting....but it uses an installer. in this day and age, installers give me the creeps.
perhaps provide it as a zipped .dll?

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:20 pm

layzer wrote:interesting....but it uses an installer. in this day and age, installers give me the creeps.
perhaps provide it as a zipped .dll?

The installer places a folder in Program Files for presets, GUI and other stuff. You can choose where you put the .dll ... and which version(s) will be installed.

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:25 pm

JoeCat wrote:Well, yeah it's free but it doesn't sound like Mariah Carey, so...

Even with better technology, you'd need a controller with the complexity of, I don't know, your entire freakin' mouth and diaphragm, to be able to truly individualize a vocal performance of any quality such that it produced something natural and artistic.

The "mother" app is Chipspeech. Chip. Speech. Even Vocaloids are represented as anime. When are those anime artist going to produce something that looks like a real person. You see that girl's EYES?!?

It's a freakin' gift. Yeah, it's there to get us interested in Chipspeech, and it worked. Kudos to Plogue, and TY

Meanwhile on KVR, one million dollars/euros/whatever gets tossed at the crowd, 20 pages of paper-cut complaints ensue...

That Jump patch does not sound like brass AT ALL

I hear you Joe !!!!

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:27 pm

Mac of BIOnighT wrote:Regarding the fact that it doesn't sound like a human being:
This sounds just as ridiculous as people saying, so many years ago, that a Moog synthesizer and all the other synths were crap because they didn't sound like "real" instruments. It just so happens that those sounds are now classics in their own right. If I want a track to sound like a singer, I sing, if I can't sing I learn to sing, if I don't want to learn I hire a singer. From an instrument like this, I expect myself to be able to get creative, surprising, useful, different things to add to my music. From what very little I've had the time to hear, this instrument has a lot of scope, it's suggestive and interesting, think outside the box and you can squeeze some amazing stuff out of it.
Once again, the limit is the musician, not the instrument...

......and there you have it in a nutshell..........

Protocol_b · Post by **Protocol_b** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:29 pm

I'm probably missing something obvious here, but I can't find a readme file in the Mac download - how do I install the Daisy voice?

thomekk · Post by **thomekk** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:37 pm

Karma_tba wrote:
Mac of BIOnighT wrote:Regarding the fact that it doesn't sound like a human being:
This sounds just as ridiculous as people saying, so many years ago, that a Moog synthesizer and all the other synths were crap because they didn't sound like "real" instruments. It just so happens that those sounds are now classics in their own right. If I want a track to sound like a singer, I sing, if I can't sing I learn to sing, if I don't want to learn I hire a singer. From an instrument like this, I expect myself to be able to get creative, surprising, useful, different things to add to my music. From what very little I've had the time to hear, this instrument has a lot of scope, it's suggestive and interesting, think outside the box and you can squeeze some amazing stuff out of it.
Once again, the limit is the musician, not the instrument...
......and there you have it in a nutshell..........

+1 or more

The greatest creative tool as a vsti for a very long time.
Of course it's artificial, but what do you think?
A great extension this is for experimenting with text - the sensitivity by playing the text as notes is cool.
And a lots of tweaking possibilities also given...

Thanks to Plogue for this free playground tool, excellent work!

davidv@plogue · Post by **davidv@plogue** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:38 am

Protocol_b wrote:I'm probably missing something obvious here, but I can't find a readme file in the Mac download - how do I install the Daisy voice?

I made a lame video just for this question!

ftech · Post by **ftech** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:47 am

Mac of BIOnighT wrote:Once again, the limit is the musician, not the instrument...

Mate, you have far too much common sense to be here

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:52 am

is there an official thread?
the instrument won't recall the Daisy bank location on OSX 10.8.5
Need to drag the xml each time i load it

and the password auth dialog hangs for about 10-15 seconds

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:57 am

This is great, downloading it now. I can imagine lots of situations where this could be helpful. Now to see if it is reasonably easy to use. I have considered Vocaloid before, I'm so far from their target user, but the way I look at it is as an instrument that has vocalizations, not as an emulated human voice. I need a computer voice for a sci fi animation I'm planning, this could do the trick. And who can argue with free?

Mac of BIOnighT · Post by **Mac of BIOnighT** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:20 am

ftech wrote: Mate, you have far too much common sense to be here

Yeah, that's one of my two main problems: I'm too handsome, and I'm too sensible ;-P

(as a matter of fact, instead of being here, I'd love to be in Australia - spring is coming down there, right?)

Plogue: Alter/Ego Voice Singing Synth- Free!