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kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:25 pm

Could you please do me a favor and try it now? I will also check out the progress from the server logs. I just tested with your credentials and got the same expected result.

I am really wondering what's wrong on your end technically

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:37 pm

kv331 wrote:Could you please do me a favor and try it now? I will also check out the progress from the server logs. I just tested with your credentials and got the same expected result.

I am really wondering what's wrong on your end technically

Maybe look at what is so different between my "credentials in the user area" and the direct link you sent me? As the direct link seems to work the majority of the time on this end, whereas the user area does not. So it can be reasoned by deduction, the problem isn't with my end. Otherwise, the direct link would present the same result.

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:40 pm

BBFG# wrote: Which never happens on the core engine download.
I only got that page last time through the direct link you sent,
which opens the browser and then goes to that.
In the past, if I'm consistent in trying over and over again and get lucky (and this has only been for small sound-set files, never large ones or engine software updates)... I have got to this page also. But generally speaking, it's nightmare of wasted energy most of the time.

I went ahead and tried again with your credentials and it worked. I also checked your download history from our server logs, according to the logs the file was prepared on the server and server starting serving it to the browser client.

EDIT: I am changing the download page so there will be an option for the user to receive an offline download link. This should make everyone happy I guess.

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:53 pm

Which you can tell by the times in repetition that it obviously didn't.

I have found if it doesn't connect by that page, to try again and hope. (Futile as that has been).
I've also noticed that the times it has truly connected,
there is an extra line on the page "your download will start shortly..."
Only then does it give me a link on that page which says "click here".
All the previous failed attempts (and apparently your server is telling you they aren't)
Show no such line or link. It simply disappears to the next blank page and stays there indefinitely.
Without any download box ever popping up.

kv331 wrote: EDIT: I am changing the download page so there will be an option for the user to receive an offline download link. This should make everyone happy I guess.

This does seem like it might be the simplest solution all around.
Hope this works.

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:21 pm

BBFG# wrote:
kv331 wrote: EDIT: I am changing the download page so there will be an option for the user to receive an offline download link. This should make everyone happy I guess.
This does seem like it might be the simplest solution all around.
Hope this works.

Here you go!

downloadpage.png

EDIT: I just changed the text as "email me a direct download link"

Sim.Sky · Post by **Sim.Sky** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:36 pm

man, can someone just change the name of the thread?

this question is just redundant to many/most/all music makers and synth lovers... both are great instruments. period. as one pretty famous electronic producer once said: today you can get pretty much every sound with every type of gear, the only thing that differs is the road you're gonna take until you get there (as always exceptions prove the rule). i think it really don't matter what triggers your creativity - as long as it gets triggered after all. just saying... thanks for listening and out again

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:42 pm

Sometimes SM works better than Serum.
The first version had Serum for the "Virus" like unison stack. But it doesn't sound good enough for me. I created the pluck with SM and it works

So... does it really need Serum if I already own Synthmaster? It depends of the needed sounds!

This a very early short idea as an example.. the "church organ" in the intro is from SM and the pluck sound (which sounds a bit like a Virus unison sound) is also from SM.
Frank Arnold - Wax

goldenanalog · Post by **goldenanalog** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:17 am

It's really about the level of investment that's made into any synth, hard or soft - both on the part of the users, as well as the dev's -

Long term: I recommend synthmaster because you actually have the dev right here, talking to all of us, evolving his product -

Bulent is so friggin' cool, that if a consensus of users on KVR voices wanting a given feature implemented in SM, he'll try his best to deliver - he's always listening -

Also keep in mind that there's a version of SM that runs in iOS, too

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:34 am

goldenanalog wrote:
Also keep in mind that there's a version of SM that runs in iOS, too

For now, we only have the "player", but next spring/summer we will hopefuly have a "basic" version available on iOS

i.e. single layer, 2 basic osc, 2 mod/sub, 2 filters, arp, 5 fx slots, etc etc

Feature requests are welcome

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 4:26 am

BBFG# wrote:
kv331 wrote:
BBFG# wrote: It's only when I enter my info from the user area that I get taken to a blank page that stays until I close it.
You are not taken to a blank page, this is what you are supposed to see:

blankpage.png
Which never happens on the core engine download.
I only got that page last time through the direct link you sent,
which opens the browser and then goes to that.
In the past, if I'm consistent in trying over and over again and get lucky (and this has only been for small sound-set files, never large ones or engine software updates)... I have got to this page also. But generally speaking, it's nightmare of wasted energy most of the time.

I dont know if this helps but the same thing happens to me whenever I try to download via a download manager (in firefox). When I save using the default downloader "save as" it works.

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:25 am

BBFG# wrote: Wait until the newest update is done, redone by customer complaint and everyone else seems to be okay with it.
Don't try to download that file for the first week it is out.
After the usual fails in connecting to download (btw, the purchase link always works perfectly),
Contact him again and wait for him to send a link (because it's the only one that works).
Copy all patch/files before installing as they have had a history of breaking and even erasing that compatibility.

How often do you want to repeat this story anyway? Obviously only two out of supposedly thousands of customers have this problem, so one can safely assume that's a typical Layer 8 error.

Some people...

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:50 pm

It appears neither of you read enough.
Bulent has added a "send a direct link to my email",
which hopefully will solve it since that has worked for me in the past.
(and operates under the same browser, download manager , ISPs, etc).
But keep bouncing it up there.

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:52 pm

Guys let's move on to the real thread discussion

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:59 pm

kv331 wrote:Guys let's move on to the real thread discussion

Since the OP already owns Synthmaster and the thread has become more about Synthmaster issues without the OP being present... Maybe it's time for the administrators to just lock this thread and let the other KV331 thread handle it.

I thank Bulent for implementing something workable.
But this thread seems done.

sostenuto · Post by **sostenuto** » Thu Sep 17, 2015 7:02 pm

Long Thread, for sure, but learned a ton. Demoing Serum and Synthmaster 2.76 now. For me, Synthmaster is the better choice. Problem is ..... Sylenth1 v2.2 and ImpOSCar2 Demos remain to decide. Older, but 'Classic'. ImpOSCar2 Pads are nice.
Can anyone go a bit OT here and advise how Synthmaster v2.76 compares

BTW, I own Omnisphere 2 (nice pads as well) and Spire (recently) ... just to clarify as I add more Synths for their unique attributes.

Regards,

Is it worth getting Serum if I already have Synthmaster?