Melda Products Install ALL Presets for ALL Plugins

[frizzbee]

He is one of the best out there. In my opinion, he has worked too hard to deserve this. - Scotty

No, he calls himself the best. That's a difference!
Look at the feature requests. Even the simplest things, basic things that are state of the art won't be implemented for "technical reasons" or "for the sake of backward compatibility". He thinks he's the best but delivers nothing that comes close to. But that could be a different thread...

Sorry Teksonik, there has been a discussion about it some time ago and, it's a no, sorry. After all this is not a folder for you...

If he thinks it does not concern me what happened to my computer, his plugins have to go. It's just that simple.

[Scotty]

I'd be a lot more inclined to agree if there was a underlying process running... for example if E.T. was phoning home due to the extraneous presets but this is not the case. His plugins are very efficiently coded. He can update his entire catalog in one go and the size of his installer is very small relative to what it contains. IF you are concerned about bloatware appreciate the very modular nature of his plugins and how lean they are in terms of size and how rich they are in terms of options. Seriously, this is emotional behaviour not logical. He pissed off some of you because he was terse. That's all there is to this.

[lnikj]

I think the word 'Architectonic' is what I would use to describe what Vojtech has done. Nobody else has pulled anything off like this (though I note that Urs is doing clever standardisation stuff now).

This forces certain compromises in order to maintain the structure. Not just with this.

No need to be so ars*y about it though.

[DarkStar]

Am I right in saying that if you own one Melda plugin, and want to update it, you have to dowmload ALL the plugins so you can update the one you own?

I own MautodynamicEQ, and my perception is that you have to download the whole freeware bundle in the upgarde process.

Not quite - you download a single installer (about 120 MB on Windows). Run it and select only the plug-ins you want to install. About 73 MB of that is the 2 plug-in kernel files (for the 64-bit and 32-bit plug-ins) both of which are always installed. And, yes, both versions of the selected plug-ins are installed automatically (into selectable different folders).

[Sampleconstruct]

Jeez, dev bashing at it's best, suffering from ablutomania?

[Synthetic Wav]

He is one of the best out there. In my opinion, he has worked too hard to deserve this. - Scotty

No, he calls himself the best. That's a difference!
Look at the feature requests. Even the simplest things, basic things that are state of the art won't be implemented for "technical reasons" or "for the sake of backward compatibility". He thinks he's the best but delivers nothing that comes close to. But that could be a different thread...

Sorry Teksonik, there has been a discussion about it some time ago and, it's a no, sorry. After all this is not a folder for you...

If he thinks it does not concern me what happened to my computer, his plugins have to go. It's just that simple.

feature request? me i m really impressed with companies like Xfer and melda trying to make their product better without making you pay for a V2 to get the desired feature or waiting months for a simple update. The kind of companies i m happy to spend my money on.. once a plugin is launched they still try to make it better with implementing what is possible and if it make sense, most popular companies won't .

[mabian]

I honestly understand Teksonik concern but I also don't agree with the harsh tone and bashing.

I hope this can end in Vojtech addressing this in one of the next updates (BTW I also noticed this odd behaviour but I chose to live with it, I guess other do much worse than this without us even not knowing about it....) and Teksonik acknowledge the good will making peace rule again.

Vojtech never denied and all those files are AFAIK harmless, so, again, I took it easy.

In the end, anyway, I cannot figure out the reason why Vojtech is so reluctant to implement this. His motivations so far do not seem solid to me...

- Mario

[mcnelson]

Am I right in saying that if you own one Melda plugin, and want to update it, you have to dowmload ALL the plugins so you can update the one you own?

I own MautodynamicEQ, and my perception is that you have to download the whole freeware bundle in the upgarde process.

Not quite - you download a single installer (about 120 MB on Windows). Run it and select only the plug-ins you want to install. About 73 MB of that is the 2 plug-in kernel files (for the 64-bit and 32-bit plug-ins) both of which are always installed. And, yes, both versions of the selected plug-ins are installed automatically (into selectable different folders).

...but you get presets for all Melda plugins, irrespective of what you own or choose to install. Like iTunes downloading that U2 album you never wanted.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4#p6141914
Decided to vote with my wallet after that.

[Karma_tba]

[woggle]

Obviously Vojtech has designed his software to enable certain efficiencies - for some reason or other he includes all presets as part of that. If you are that space constrained with your machine that compromises your system then fair enough. But to slag off at Vojtech as though his design decision is in some way hostile or inconsidered is ridiculous. Leave that sort of criticism to people who understand software design. Vojtech has been really smart with his development.

[mcnelson]

Leave that sort of criticism to people who understand software design.

Yes, like all of the other plugin devs who ship installers which install every preset for every plugin they ship, regardless of whether you own it or not.

Vojtech has been really smart with his development.

Smart? How is it smart to install a bunch of crap I didn't ask for and am never going to use?

It's not about hard drive space or the size of the files, it's simply the concept of installing unrequested software which is completely superfluous. Quite frankly, a dev who ships a plugin that relies on presets from another plugin which may or may not be installed - to me that's bad design. The solution is not to follow it with even worse design - carpet bombing a user with every preset for every plugin, just in case.

[Karma_tba]

Obviously Vojtech has designed his software to enable certain efficiencies - for some reason or other he includes all presets as part of that. If you are that space constrained with your machine that compromises your system then fair enough. But to slag off at Vojtech as though his design decision is in some way hostile or inconsidered is ridiculous. Leave that sort of criticism to people who understand software design. Vojtech has been really smart with his development.

Sorry, but just because he/she can write code in no way means that they should go unchallenged ,unquestioned. These devs are only as good as their last best release and are capable of making bad decisions,especially when surrounded by yes men and fan boys. I will never entrust myself or my belongings to anyone or any company just because their loyal followers do.

[Lesha]

I want to know if I decide to manually remove the presets I don't need, would that compromise the plugins I own?

[steve2KVR]

...ohh jeez...now i am worried...

To me Virus = Any unwanted data that could possibly be harmful.

...does that include windows AND osx?... ..../s~

[Mace404]

I want to know if I decide to manually remove the presets I don't need, would that compromise the plugins I own?

Not at all, that's exactly what I am doing. Like I need the bunch of impulse responses for my MMultiAnalyzer. Just to name an example.

I took the time to clean up the Melda folders once. Now I use my backup tool (Freefilesync) to detect the added files after an update. Then I select the bunch and move them right where they belong > teh trash

He is talking about his users like they are a pain in the ass and/or plain stupid.