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UncleAge · Post by **UncleAge** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:34 pm

I don't find most of the included reverbs in most of my soft synths that good. In fact, I think it's the weakest link in almost all of them so much so that I almost never put the built-in reverbs in any of my presets.

So...Have any of you found synths with outstanding built in reverbs? If so which ones impressed you the most?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:36 pm

I generally agree with your point. The one in Spire is pretty good though.

UncleAge · Post by **UncleAge** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:48 pm

And admittedly, I have never demoed Spire. I'll have to check it out.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:54 pm

Hive for sure.

Saukar30 · Post by **Saukar30** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:01 am

Dune2

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:07 am

Some are decent, but very rarely more than that. Over time I tend to prefer the ones that have a very strong character, even if they are not so versatile, but they add a unique touch. Largo's reverb for example. Can sound strange, but sometimes, you just wont find something to replace it, and it definitely belongs to the patch. Same with FM8.

Then, reverb is a part of the mood of a patch, so when you design sounds, it's almost obligatory to use one if it's embedded in the synth. It gives an idea of the full picture. I'd however strongly suggest to anyone testing sounds on a synthesizer with a not so good reverb ( not so good according to his/her own taste ) to put an eternal really good reverb on a bus, and turn the internal reverb off. It makes a BIG difference. ( And that's how I usually design patches on synths that have internal reverbs not suited to my taste. I then replace the external unit with *what is available* )

On a side note, hardware synths/romplers from the big names have often better on board reverbs than what can be found on sw synthesizers. There again, it might make a difference for how people perceive the presets and *global* quality of the sound.

UncleAge · Post by **UncleAge** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:22 am

Lotuzia wrote:I'd however strongly suggest to anyone testing sounds on a synthesizer with a not so good reverb ( not so good according to his/her own taste ) to put an eternal really good reverb on a bus, and turn the internal reverb off. It makes a BIG difference. ( And that's how I usually design patches on synths that have internal reverbs not suited to my taste. I then replace the external unit with *what is available* )

Agreed. Except, I don't usually go back and use the internal reverb.

Lotuzia wrote:On a side note, hardware synths/romplers from the big names have often better on board reverbs than what can be found on sw synthesizers. There again, it might make a difference for how people perceive the presets and *global* quality of the sound.

I'll admit it definitely affects my perception of quality.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:07 am

The reverb (and echo) in Reaktor Skanner is wonderful.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:09 am

More typically, I wouldn't know, I don't think of a synth having reverb anyway. That one's quality suits what the thing does.

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:26 am

I'm pretty happy with the reverbs in Diva, Trillian, lots of synths actually, and Sampletank has a nice selection of reverbs. I always use the reverb in Saxlab2, I think the key with built-in reverbs is they should be used sparingly and as a part of the patch, used creatively, not just added because people add reverb to things. If you don't need it, don't use it. If you need something different, use something different. But then I don't make patches before I need them, so I guess if you are making a big bank of patches and you don't know the eventual context they would be used in, it probably should be left dry. The best design with effects on a synth is probably an easy, convenient way to enable and disable them.

Vectorman · Post by **Vectorman** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:36 am

NI Massive's reverb doesn't seem to be held in very high regard but, oddly enough, I find myself sort of liking it on some Massive patches...sometimes I'll like the way a Massive patch sounds, effects and all, and just leave the internal reverb on it. Overall though, 75% of the time, I do end up turning off softsynths' internal reverbs and putting LX480 or EA Phoenixverb on them instead.

quantum7 · Post by **quantum7** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:51 am

90% of the time I replace the reverbs on my softsynths with 2CAudio's B2 once I start mixing. Soooo much better a majority of the time than the built-in reverbs.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:07 am

I love Hive's Reverb...and thats it.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:24 am

Best included reverb: (or any effect, for that matter) Mpowersynth

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:50 am

The original Synth Squad has Breverb built-in. I don't know if the new Strobe 2 is the same reverb. Personally, I never loved the sound of the reverb but Breverb is (or at least used to be) really highly regarded around KVR.

Synth Reverb - are there good ones?