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MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:16 pm

z.prime wrote:Thanks, really the question was more... if I have a bunch of oscillators, will they automatically stop calculating when an envelope ends or "all" the envelopes finish?

Good question! Well that's exactly what the 'main envelope' is for, so the PolySynth can know when a voice has ended. It's the patch designer who understands best how a patch is constructed and so he should right-click the envelope module that defines when a voice ends and "Set As Main Envelope". In the most typical case it's an ADSR envelope that controls a final Amplifier module.

Lets say the patch has multiple sub-MUXes, each with their own set of envelopes. Will it be limited to calculating each MUX's release individually based on the envelopes and free up CPU as all the envelopes end or will the larger, container MUX cause them to continue calculating? Is there a way I can look at a patch and figure out (e.g. if it's not a poly synth)?

A MUX patch does not stop processing (besides some 'smart bypassing' built-in in certain modules). It is the PolySynth module that can start/stop playing voices. So the 'main envelope' is related to the PolySynth's voice manager. Hope i explain well.

you should hurry up with the Mac version of MUX!

I know! But there are some complications, hopefully i can bypass/solve them soon. Let's avoid a deeper discussion about that here. that's out of the scope of this OSC. Lets be as creative as possible with the current state of the MUX.

babel2 · Post by **babel2** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:56 pm

bjporter wrote:*Mac Users Rejoice!!*
The dev has generously released an october key for MuLab (which contains MUX). So if you're on a mac, go download MuLab and use the key ASAP and

This Key also works to unlock the Windows version of MuLab as well

I've updated the OP with relevent info: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 7#p6254497
Or go to the OSC google page: https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/osc-80-mux

Going to get into this as soon as I can

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:27 am

mutools wrote:It is the PolySynth module that can start/stop playing voices. So the 'main envelope' is related to the PolySynth's voice manager. Hope i explain well.

Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to know... I did read about the Main Envelope in the docs, was just trying to see if I had any other real options. So the takeaway for all is:

Anything using oscillators, playing notes should probably always go in a Poly Synth!

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:02 am

Also, am I right, there's no undo? This is a pretty big omission. Don't get me wrong, it's super generous to give a month of free use of this thing for OSCers, and we'll all take what we're given and happily chug away for the month, so thank you for the generosity. And the capabilities you've built into this synth are pretty good... but feature request #1: undo!!!!!!!! Some cases this is extremely frustrating, for example after clicking in a MUX window, selecting some modules, pressing Cmd-X cut a whole MUX instance out of the rack somehow. I realize now there was a way to paste it back, but at the time I had something saved recently, so it seemed the only way to fix it by reopening the project. Similarly, cutting a bunch of modules to move them loses all the routing, so unable to undo that and even see what it was is problematic, too. Anyway, I think anyone would agree something like this _really_ needs a robust undo feature (yes, it would have to be like DAWs and save state of embedded VSTs and such, but c'est la vie). Anyway, you'll presumably get more feature requests in this thread, obviously not expecting to implement this month.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:02 am

Yes indeed. And then you can apply all kinds of global effects on the PolySynth's audio output in the PolySynth's parent MUX.

actioncat · Post by **actioncat** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:55 am

Hey can I still get a MUX key for windows? The link on the OSC page does this:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error and was unable to complete your request. Either the server is overloaded or there is an error in the application.

It's been like that all day. I saw I can get the Mutools key and use MUX in there, but with what seems like nearly limitless possibilities of MUX I think I'll need to be in my usual work environment in order to get anything done by the end of the month.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:32 am

Indeed, i also get that server error.

Here is the MUX OSC user key:

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[MUX6UL#h3zI4HwlhMXmJKvAkL3mrXb5Ymq0oK0wpuowGLwWSNV2+LukpkN2rf9oRtIF3WNMO6dtzoM2JyYByCyNKErI2S0L7I5QwJaV]

actioncat · Post by **actioncat** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:43 am

Thanks much! Can't wait to try this out tomorrow (could try tonight but I want to be able to put in a couple hours at least) :]

rghvdberg · Post by **rghvdberg** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:49 pm

This is a scary beast of a synth ...

btw, I know nobody cares but I got it working in Linux, also the registration.
DAW Ardour4.2
Carla-Patchbay LV2 as plugin host for MUX

... using a plugin to host a plugin ... pluginception
I know it's unnecessary complicated

dakkra · Post by **dakkra** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:04 am

Some patches to get you guys started

(Sorry for the terrible mic and video quality)

Download: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx1bP ... WNxVWh3WFE

EDIT: If the volume slider on the kick synth doesn't work, open up the MixerStrip and enable the amplifier

RichardSemper · Post by **RichardSemper** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:57 am

dakkra wrote:Some patches to get you guys started

Awesome work! Thanks for sharing

Dee.P.Tree · Post by **Dee.P.Tree** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:05 am

dakkra wrote:Some patches to get you guys started

Thanks a lot for sharing...!

I am yet to start playing with the synth.

H-man · Post by **H-man** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:56 am

RichardSemper wrote:
dakkra wrote:Some patches to get you guys started
Awesome work! Thanks for sharing

Thx also dakkra

I've been mining the mutools forum for examples and ideas also.

And believe it or not, last night, I actually dreamt I was patching modules together

bibz1st · Post by **bibz1st** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:08 am

H-man wrote:
RichardSemper wrote:
dakkra wrote:Some patches to get you guys started
Awesome work! Thanks for sharing
Thx also dakkra I've been mining the mutools forum for examples and ideas also.

And believe it or not, last night, I actually dreamt I was patching modules together

haha, been there done that, some of my best work has been done in my sleep, just a pity I cant replicate them when I wake up

H-man · Post by **H-man** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:17 am

bibz1st wrote:
H-man wrote:
RichardSemper wrote:
dakkra wrote:Some patches to get you guys started
Awesome work! Thanks for sharing
Thx also dakkra I've been mining the mutools forum for examples and ideas also.

And believe it or not, last night, I actually dreamt I was patching modules together
haha, been there done that, some of my best work has been done in my sleep, just a pity I cant replicate them when I wake up

Nah, have no idea what I was trying to build ...maybe it will come back?

One Synth Challenge #80: MUX by MuTools (Voting Over, preliminary results in)