The I-am-a-great-talent-but-didn't-become-famous-because... thread

[t3toooo]

Finally,glad you brought it up.To be famous is very important for us KVR users ,don't underestimate your own power.

For a low fee i'll tell you the most important squiggles and wiggles/tips and tricks on how to reach an ever growing super strong fanbase and how to build up a solid foundation to finally became famous, in just a few months.

A tip for you right now (and that's a very important one):
You need a smartphone.

Cheers,

[V0RT3X]

Who cares if you aren't famous? Just sign pieces of paper with your autograph on it and hand them out randomly to people you see.

[D.H. Miltz]

I just haven't earned it yet, baby.

[Frantz]

I am very famous but I don't want to reveal my true identity.

I am Lady Gaga but let's keep it quiet.

[werp]

I'll be dead famous one day. Unfortunately the dead part comes first.

[jancivil]

I'm completely convinced that talent isn't particularly rare. The combination of determination, discipline, boneheadedness, courage, charisma, willingness to self-promote/whore oneself out, luck, and good (or at least interesting) looks it takes to become famous is a bit more rare.

I tend to agree, but depending on the definition of 'talent' and 'rare'. I am lazy in terms of what people pretty much must do in terms of any kind of success in financial terms. At one time I was willing to get out in front and be known, in order to have a career as a performer. Many things happened that revealed to me I wasn't going to be that kind of person, not all of it was under my control but in terms of the personality for it, I'm well short of what it takes.

And around this time I noticed I like staying incognito. In my home town I was a bit notorious. I remember I went with a friend to see Clarence "Gatemouth" Brown at the Double Door Inn. People noticed and noticed who I came in with. Awkward. Ol' Gatemouth give me the evil eye all night (I'm not the gunfighter he's looking for tho') and had some shit to say about white musicians ripping him off. (His management stuck him with a kind of lame backup group which he appeared to have been forced to give a set to, and they were more suited to kind of lame fusion.) . But fantastic performance anyway. But I felt weird even in the small pond aspect of it. Fame appears to f**k a lot of people up.

[seismic1]

I won't remove my panties in public

[cryophonik]

I won't remove my panties in public

So, go commando. Problem solved.

[seismic1]

I won't remove my panties in public

So, go commando. Problem solved.

I'd probably develop a rash

[jancivil]

One person in the scene that my friend there was buds with became the focus for a part of Ross McElwee's 'documentary' Sherman's March: A Meditation on the Possibility of Romantic Love In the South During an Era of Nuclear Weapons Proliferation, as one of the women he crushed on that didn't work out, which is funny because she was quite gay, that was the whole milieu and he appears to have not picked up on it. She may have enjoyed the perversity of that, it may have sold some records even.
(Grand Jury prize in the field of documentary at Sundance 1987.)


It was fun to be watching that notorious film and there's someone you know from home, tho'.

[jancivil]

Count me in

Maybe its just my own lack of ego, but I've never understood why fame is considered a desirable trait. Wealth, yes, but why is it important to be known to others?

I want the people to know my music. There is no point in making music if no one listens to it, right?

Also I believe it works the other way - being famous makes you rich. Even if millions of people in the world find you idiot and loser, you still get recognition from customers, sponsors and others.

"if no one listens to it". What is that? Here validation from others is conflated with 'the point in making music'. Nowadays people become famous having accomplished nothing, it's become this very perverse thing, notoriety in its own right. There is an excluded middle here, between the extremes of <validation by millions> and <no one will ever care>.

[Zexila]

I'm not talent and can't stick to one thing or even respond on that top 5 influences thread because I got influenced by different sounds in different tracks from totally different genres even, that's the reason I never quite managed to get with the program and become successful at anything in particular or to fit in, to give my spin on something, never delivered what was expected to be accepted, that needed amount of familiarity, if it's mostly cheesy thing, too weird, if it's weird thing, too cheesy, deep artsy, too "shallow" and you catch my drift, always far away from "it", I don't have what it takes, plain and simple.

[Aleatoriac]

Fame is irrelevant. Talent... I don't have talent. I had to work (the word fails to convey) for everything I have and am. I am *not* an isolated case in this.

It's the pursuit of that sound, whatever it is, the itch I can't scratch, the thing that exceeds reach and grasp... But I can't stop.

You know what I mean, I think most of you are infected with the same meme.

[jancivil]

I agree that talent is overrated. It isn't defined, really, here anyway. A lot of people may begin with an advantage in terms of a 'gift' and then it isn't cultivated. Additionally I think to some extent a modest gift can be made into genius through working hard enough, through dedication and desire, through the need.

[camsr]

Fame is just a way to get criticized for being who you are