One Synth Challenge #80: MUX by MuTools (Voting Over, preliminary results in)

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Steven/Wag - just have to say, so much better - taking a few useful comments and applying a few of the suggestions has made a huge difference. You have a very good track there. :clap:

I'm with you BJ with the analyser :tu: ... for good reason ...

At 66 and having been mixing FOH back in the 70's and 80's, hell, my ears are well shot! :dog:

I mix by building up the sounds - but I nearly always start with the very basic things - I stick ReaEQ on each track (just coz it's a simple "surgical" eq to use, and it shows you the rough frequency spectrum live as you tune it). On the tracks with lots of bass, I make sure we don't drift down to much into the sub bass (I would add a sub bass track if I wanted sub bass), also I chop off the higher frequencies as well, making sure not to mangle any string pluck sounds. For the very high freq things, I pretty much do the opposite.

Basically making frequency "space" for the rest of the track ...

For me the mid range stuff is harder and needs to be mixed in and EQ'd carefully WITH the other tracks since the bass and high freq will eventually "colour" those mid range sounds (using colour in the technical sense).

I then still use a freq analyser on the master track and check nothing spikes up where it shouldn't - if it does I mute down the tracks to isolate the little "****ers", then bring back the tracks and eq those tracks watching the analyser to get it "right". Still listening of course all the time.

I also check the stereo "power" - I have heard tracks where a huge chunk of stereo image is missing - once you hear it, it make everything sound very odd.

Anyways, I need to thank all those who have advised me in the last year and a bit I've been doing the OSC. :clap: My sound design, mixing and production skills have improved immeasurably - and I really mean that. If I can feed back any of this learnt knowledge, then I will. I try to keep my comments to the point, but honest.

Overall, this is been a pleasant and interesting ride so far ... I used my learnt skills to do a different competition (no placing, but I use OSC techniques to produce the track).

If you would like to hear it, I unabashedly link it here ... it's also on my SC page, but I will link to a dropbox version so it doesn't get a full player and distract from the MUX comp. (NO 3rd party fx except a little EQ/comp allowed. :o )

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/333 ... 0stems.mp3

PS Of course, any nice comments welcome on the SC page - hehe! :hihi:

db

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z.prime wrote:
bjporter wrote:It's ok to mix visually - in fact it helps you learn a LOT about sounds.
I mix naked. Take THAT visual imagery. :)
I'd like to imagine Z is a beautiful young woman.

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rghvdberg wrote:
z.prime wrote:
bjporter wrote:It's ok to mix visually - in fact it helps you learn a LOT about sounds.
I mix naked. Take THAT visual imagery. :)
I'd like to imagine Z is a beautiful young woman.
Yeah but here is the thing, Z mixes his tracks in his (or her ....never yet met a girl named Keith tho) car!

Get cuffed much bro?

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Before I post this, I want to say that there's something to be said for teamwork. I could have never gotten this track to where it is now without the help of all of you have have given me suggestions and/or outright fixed some of the glaring problems with this piece, especially the timing on the lead. That alone improved the track 100%.

In going through the final process of bringing everything down to zero and leveling, EQing and compressing each track until everything fit just right in the mix, I managed to take out the mud from the conflicting basses and cleaned up the end which was way too hot. In fact, the piece in general was at too high a db. There is no more fighting for space, that I can hear and it generally sounds so much better.

I can no longer hear anything out of place here. So unless somebody can point out something that still needs to be fixed (my ears have done all it can) this is going to be the final version. I can't believe it took me over 3 weeks to do a 3 minute song. But now I understand how much work goes into these things. From here on in, my OSC submissions will be a lot better. And it is all because of you guys.

Because of that, I can't really take credit for this piece. But I will do my best to make you guys proud of me in the future. I owe you all that much for putting up with me and helping me through this.

Thank you. I mean that more than you can imagine.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... mux-take-3

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Steven -- I just did a quick listen, huge, HUGE, difference. It really holds together. So much better balanced. Congratulations. This is far away your best sounding OSC piece!

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Well, like I said, I can't take credit for this. 90% of the fixes I made had to be pointed out to me.

The question is, next month, can I do this kind of work on my own? That's going to be the real test.

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I kinda like it, very catchy melody :tu:

Definitely not a 1 pointer, I would give it at least a 3 or even a 4 :)

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wagtunes wrote:The question is, next month, can I do this kind of work on my own?
maybe not. maybe in 3 or 4 months.

just enjoy the journey

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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
wagtunes wrote:The question is, next month, can I do this kind of work on my own?
maybe not. maybe in 3 or 4 months.

just enjoy the journey
So you're gonna hold my hand for the next few? :lol:

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wagtunes wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
wagtunes wrote:The question is, next month, can I do this kind of work on my own?
maybe not. maybe in 3 or 4 months.

just enjoy the journey
So you're gonna hold my hand for the next few? :lol:
no !! however, if you've managed to master this process in just these few days, then you're better than all of us :wink:

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el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
wagtunes wrote:The question is, next month, can I do this kind of work on my own?
maybe not. maybe in 3 or 4 months.

just enjoy the journey
So you're gonna hold my hand for the next few? :lol:
no !! however, if you've managed to master this process in just these few days, then you're better than all of us :wink:
Well I think I am a long way from there but we'll see how this month goes and then we'll see how next month goes.

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My wife is dancing through the living room on Wags tune ...

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BTW, don't see a problem helping you (and me, or anyone else) out, next time or any other OSC.
Worst thing that can happen is that we end up with more beautiful music.

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rghvdberg wrote:BTW, don't see a problem helping you (and me, or anyone else) out, next time or any other OSC.
Worst thing that can happen is that we end up with more beautiful music.
+1!!

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