UVI Falcon - v4 = 2026 released - rumors, ads, praise, kindergarden, auto-sampling and off-topic inside!

[mutantdog]

Could people please use less forum space and time moaning and bitching about stuff like prices. You're adding absolutely nothing to the conversation and you're forcing me to vent and do the same thing. No-one is forcing you to buy anything.

Don't like the price? Don't buy it.

Don't like that there's no demo? Don't buy it.

Don't like iLok? Don't buy it.

And shut up about it so this thread is easier to read for those looking for real info and user opinions.

I have no real opinion on the price

I doubt I'd demo it even if I could

I'm okay with iLok really

There you go, no bitching there.

[Dasheesh]

But unless you're running a PC from 1978 with Windows 1 you can be assured this thing will boot without crashing, that's what they call Beta-testing.

yeah well, I tried uvi on an old mac right about the time mac went intel. They had a free version on don't crack I think... something like that.

It bricked my mac...like bricked it. I had to do a fresh install. Granted things have changed a lot since then, I'm sure it wouldn't do that now, but wow that was bad. I can see where the whole "try before you buy" is important. I think if there were major problems it would be reported by now though...still trying to get over the thought of ilok on my machine though.....almost there.

[c_voltage]

BTW

Don't like iLok? Don't buy it.

This is one of the reasons why i sure that i'll buy it. Really like ilok protection.

[wagtunes]

But unless you're running a PC from 1978 with Windows 1 you can be assured this thing will boot without crashing, that's what they call Beta-testing.

yeah well, I tried uvi on an old mac right about the time mac went intel. They had a free version on don't crack I think... something like that.

It bricked my mac...like bricked it. I had to do a fresh install. Granted things have changed a lot since then, I'm sure it wouldn't do that now, but wow that was bad. I can see where the whole "try before you buy" is important. I think if there were major problems it would be reported by now though...still trying to get over the thought of ilok on my machine though.....almost there.

See, I don't even care about iLok. I use it for all my EWQL stuff and have never had a problem with it. In fact, I've already made up my mind that I want to buy this thing. But I want to make sure it runs on my system before I do.

That isn't a lot to ask for.

[Sampleconstruct]

But unless you're running a PC from 1978 with Windows 1 you can be assured this thing will boot without crashing, that's what they call Beta-testing.

I downloaded and demo'd AIR Loom. Thank God it had a demo. It crashed my DAW so badly that I had to reinstall my DAW. Because of that, I will never buy an AIR product.

Point is, no, things don't always work. I've learned this painfully with video games. Know how many "tested" games don't work because it doesn't like a particular video or sound card?

Omni cost me almost nothing because I sold a bunch of instruments that were laying in my basement collecting dust. So I was willing to take the chance that it wouldn't work. Fortunately, it did. But there is no guarantee.

The person who said "Well if there's no demo and you don't like it, don't get it" that's not the point. What company sells a high end product without a demo given the possibility that it may not run on your particular system? It makes absolutely no sense to me.

I have no idea why there is no demo, maybe UVI is planning something in that direction, MOTU sold MachFive for years without a demo and it's quite a popular plugin, so it does work. I sell my sound libraries without demos preset for free download, and it works very well. And there are other examples...

And to always expect the worst is one way of viewing things, but Falcon is a well tested, very stable instrument.

[Sampleconstruct]

But unless you're running a PC from 1978 with Windows 1 you can be assured this thing will boot without crashing, that's what they call Beta-testing.

yeah well, I tried uvi on an old mac right about the time mac went intel. They had a free version on don't crack I think... something like that.

It bricked my mac...like bricked it. I had to do a fresh install. Granted things have changed a lot since then, I'm sure it wouldn't do that now, but wow that was bad. I can see where the whole "try before you buy" is important. I think if there were major problems it would be reported by now though...still trying to get over the thought of ilok on my machine though.....almost there.

The specs for Falcon clearly state the system requirements, so that should't be an issue here.

[wagtunes]

But unless you're running a PC from 1978 with Windows 1 you can be assured this thing will boot without crashing, that's what they call Beta-testing.

I downloaded and demo'd AIR Loom. Thank God it had a demo. It crashed my DAW so badly that I had to reinstall my DAW. Because of that, I will never buy an AIR product.

Point is, no, things don't always work. I've learned this painfully with video games. Know how many "tested" games don't work because it doesn't like a particular video or sound card?

Omni cost me almost nothing because I sold a bunch of instruments that were laying in my basement collecting dust. So I was willing to take the chance that it wouldn't work. Fortunately, it did. But there is no guarantee.

The person who said "Well if there's no demo and you don't like it, don't get it" that's not the point. What company sells a high end product without a demo given the possibility that it may not run on your particular system? It makes absolutely no sense to me.

I have no idea why there is no demo, maybe UVI is planning something in that direction, MOTU sold MachFive for years without a demo and it's quite a popular plugin, so it does work. I sell my sound libraries without demos preset for free download, and it works very well. And there are other examples...

And to always expect the worst is one way of viewing things, but Falcon is a well tested, very stable instrument.

I'm not saying it's not stable. It may very well be the best piece of music making software ever created.

Not the point.

There is no 100% guarantee that a piece of software will run on a person's particular system. That is a fact. Therefore, given the chance that this particular software MIGHT not work, no matter how slim that chance is, what person plunks down $229 with the attitude, "Oh well, if I'm out $229, no big deal."

Maybe there are people on this forum so rich that they can do that. I'm not one of them. $229 is a lot of money to me and I just want to be assured that before I buy the piece of software that it's actually going to work on my machine. And the only way to be sure of that 100% is to demo it first.

[Sampleconstruct]

But how often do you want to repeat that now, we have all heard you.

[wagtunes]

But how often do you want to repeat that now, we have all heard you.

Well, here's what would be nice. For somebody from UVI to come to this thread and tell me that if I can prove the software doesn't work, via some screen capture video program or something similar, that we'll refund your money. That's all I want. Some assurance that I'm not going to be out $229.

[Sampleconstruct]

But how often do you want to repeat that now, we have all heard you.

Well, here's what would be nice. For somebody from UVI to come to this thread and tell me that if I can prove the software doesn't work, via some screen capture video program or something similar, that we'll refund your money. That's all I want. Some assurance that I'm not going to be out $229.

Why don't you visit them, write them an email and BAM. This is not an “official“ UVI thread, I set it up on my own behalf.

[mutantdog]

But how often do you want to repeat that now, we have all heard you.

Well, here's what would be nice. For somebody from UVI to come to this thread and tell me that if I can prove the software doesn't work, via some screen capture video program or something similar, that we'll refund your money. That's all I want. Some assurance that I'm not going to be out $229.

You could contact them yourself. I'm sure we'd all like to know if they are willing to offer such a guarantee.

I expect one of them will be here within the next few days otherwise.

[BBFG#]

But unless you're running a PC from 1978 with Windows 1 you can be assured this thing will boot without crashing, that's what they call Beta-testing.

yeah well, I tried uvi on an old mac right about the time mac went intel. They had a free version on don't crack I think... something like that.
It bricked my mac...like bricked it. I had to do a fresh install. Granted things have changed a lot since then, I'm sure it wouldn't do that now, but wow that was bad. I can see where the whole "try before you buy" is important. I think if there were major problems it would be reported by now though...still trying to get over the thought of ilok on my machine though.....almost there.

The specs for Falcon clearly state the system requirements, so that should't be an issue here.

But it sometimes still is. Case in point is my own history with Spectrasonics where my system exceeded their minimum requirements and the software (Atmosphere) choked regularly before they decided their best solution was to pull a "requirements subject to change without notice" (without actually changing the minimum requirements on their site) and erase my account. Other cases in point, is what IK-M did to Apple users with 2.5 and now have many systems they consider "anomalies" that won't run STank 3 without concern or refund. The list is far more than we want to think it is and we're never concerned with them unless we suddenly find ourselves thrown on that pyre.

Having run UVI Digital Synsations on my system, I do believe Falcon should also run, and the only issue for me is the PACE software. Which, when I ran the UVI I just mentioned, found out that PACE once again lied and hadn't improved anything they said they did.

[Sampleconstruct]

Sure, we can go to town on that topic now for another 6 pages, it won't change a thing.

[Numanoid]

iLok haters, and users who need demos

Fair enough, but move on to another product that fits your criteria better

[DocAtlas]

I didn´t found a clear answer in the manual about a few things i would like to know.

1. Can i modulate with audio rate and can i use any OSC as modulation source?

2. Can i go deeper than just modulate a modulator. I want f.e. modulate a modulator which modulates a modulated modulator etc. Or modulate this way just parts of a modulator
Most software is not very flexible here. (Still searching for something for desktop which can things like i can do with my tiny iPhone synth Mitosynth)

3. Can i use as many LFO, MSEG etc. like i want or is there a limit?

4. Do i really need Falcon?

1. No, during Alpha I begged for an input in the FM synth for using samples as FM modulators, not possible.

2. Yes, you can go as deep as your brain can follow.

3. Yes, like in Alchemy. Also you can use the arp per layer, as many layers as you like, Alchemy 2 allows for 4 arps in 4 sources.

4. Who cares

Too bad about no input to the FM oscillator. I was hoping it could do some of the kinds of things that Yamaha's SY77 could do. Being able to use any of the oscillators to modulate the FM oscillator would have been awesome. I still want Falcon, nut I can't afford it atm. Maybe next year.