Leaked photo of Push 2

[samsam]

Still can't believe those encoders are above the screen

do your arms protrude from your stomach or something ?

because generally your arms will extend to the side, and then your hands will come in towards the knobs from the outside left or right ... so obstruction isn't nearly as bad as some are making out ?

Hold your arms out like this guy, should have no problems, yes?



As for me, my arms protrude from my stomach, so I'm f**ked.

[V0RT3X]

So if that's 700 Euros which is about $1,000.00 Canadian (thanks to our dwindling dollar). Do we get a free copy of Live with it? Or is this just the price for the controller itself?

[BDeep]

So if that's 700 Euros which is about $1,000.00 Canadian (thanks to our dwindling dollar). Do we get a free copy of Live with it? Or is this just the price for the controller itself?

Live Intro is what you get with it... So that basically means that you'd still have to upgrade to Standard or Suite.

[duncanm]

The trade in is pretty tempting, esp as I paid 30% off for the original one.

But...aside from the screen, ability to do samples and button layout change, what are the major differences here? I've seen the page on Ableton's site with the new features, but no feature matrix pointing out the differences.

[keyman_sam]

So will 9.5 update be free for us 9.x owners? Or is Ableton like Cubase in charging for point upgrades?

Also, though that Push is sick, its missing the data jog wheel. A jog wheel saves your fingers from doing the work and puts it on the wrist for a change. Same problem with the Akai - without a jog wheel its just...meh.

[BDeep]

I wonder... If Push 2 still has aftertouch? It might, but I can't find any reference on Ableton's pages.

That said, the upgrade is indeed tempting, I got Push in a sale as well, so that's not that bad a deal.

[duncanm]

So will 9.5 update be free for us 9.x owners? Or is Ableton like Cubase in charging for point upgrades?

Also, though that Push is sick, its missing the data jog wheel. A jog wheel saves your fingers from doing the work and puts it on the wrist for a change. Same problem with the Akai - without a jog wheel its just...meh.

It is free for everyone.

Actually, the single most interesting feature for me is the proper integration of third party VSTs/AUs with all Pushes. Absolute pain in the arse setting up racks to do this so this is great. Hope it's mildly intelligent how it assigns parameters to the encoders as well.

[aMUSEd]

So will 9.5 update be free for us 9.x owners? Or is Ableton like Cubase in charging for point upgrades?

Also, though that Push is sick, its missing the data jog wheel. A jog wheel saves your fingers from doing the work and puts it on the wrist for a change. Same problem with the Akai - without a jog wheel its just...meh.

It is free for everyone.

Actually, the single most interesting feature for me is the proper integration of third party VSTs/AUs with all Pushes. Absolute pain in the arse setting up racks to do this so this is great. Hope it's mildly intelligent how it assigns parameters to the encoders as well.

That either depends on the dev being 'mildly intelligent' enough to organise params logically and give them proper names, or some sort of template based system that recognises plugins and assigns the template to them. In either case it is still usually better if the user has some ability to then further edit the layout to suit their own needs.

[rod_zero]

There is now the option to "save as default configurations", right click on the plugin in the device view. That can save lot of time, and you only do it once.

[duncanm]

So will 9.5 update be free for us 9.x owners? Or is Ableton like Cubase in charging for point upgrades?

Also, though that Push is sick, its missing the data jog wheel. A jog wheel saves your fingers from doing the work and puts it on the wrist for a change. Same problem with the Akai - without a jog wheel its just...meh.

It is free for everyone.

Actually, the single most interesting feature for me is the proper integration of third party VSTs/AUs with all Pushes. Absolute pain in the arse setting up racks to do this so this is great. Hope it's mildly intelligent how it assigns parameters to the encoders as well.

That either depends on the dev being 'mildly intelligent' enough to organise params logically and give them proper names, or some sort of template based system that recognises plugins and assigns the template to them. In either case it is still usually better if the user has some ability to then further edit the layout to suit their own needs.

well maybe, but it was a Live issue the if there were 8 or less parameters, it did something anything else and Push just freaked out and didn't even try to do it.

[BDeep]

There is now the option to "save as default configurations", right click on the plugin in the device view. That can save lot of time, and you only do it once.

Yup, that's excellent. Also, it now remembers the scale with the project.

After some digging, I really can't find any reference to aftertouch on Push 2, not even in the manual. So I guess it's fair to say they ditched that feature.

[dayjob]

i guess they are catching up to the leak!

https://www.ableton.com/

website being updated.

9.5 is free update. push 1 still supported and new features added.

Push 2 is $799. can trade in Push 1 for 30% discount and traded in units go to music schools.

[thetechnobear]

Trade in is very tempting ....

For me big thing is going to be its midi implementation, I'm concerned we may not be able to address the display with sysex as we could before. Which means not useful for numerology 4, liquid rhythm, pxt live and other apps.
If they keep a compatible mode - I'm in

[Dostoyevsky]

Push 2 is $799. can trade in Push 1 for 30% discount and traded in units go to music schools.

The trade-in offer is valid until May 1st 2016.

[thetechnobear]

I think for me 'the big thing ' is the hi res display means longer text is visible for parameters, track names etc

The ableton videos really are very convincing