UVI Falcon - v4 = 2026 released - rumors, ads, praise, kindergarden, auto-sampling and off-topic inside!

[c_voltage]

So now it's time for Steinberg to update HALion

Would be good )

[Hans25]

With the voucher the price is about €183 without VAT. That's cheaper than JRR-Shop.

Ah, I see, thanks!

Your welcome

[basslinemaster]

With the voucher the price is about €183 without VAT. That's cheaper than JRR-Shop.

Ah, I see, thanks!

Your welcome

I have to pay VAT (in the U.K.) and all I see is 219 Euros after the discount. So I'm wondering if JRRShop will attempt to charge me VAT, on top of the $229 (£150) they are asking for Falcon. I registered and got through to the checkout page, and tried the Paypal option, got through to the Paypal login page, and it still says $229, (£150), which is £12 odd cheaper than Best Service (I think). Has anybody from the U.K. actually bought it from JRRShop?

[Ghostwave]

I have to pay VAT (in the U.K.) and all I see is 219 Euros after the discount. So I'm wondering if JRRShop will attempt to charge me VAT, on top of the $229 (£150) they are asking for Falcon.

I bought Falcon at JRR shop and wasn't charged VAT (they're American and have not shop in Europe).
If you're in the EU, JRR shop is the cheapest.
If you're not, it's Best Service with the Halloween20 voucher (while it lasts).

[basslinemaster]

I have to pay VAT (in the U.K.) and all I see is 219 Euros after the discount. So I'm wondering if JRRShop will attempt to charge me VAT, on top of the $229 (£150) they are asking for Falcon.

I bought Falcon at JRR shop and wasn't charged VAT (they're American and have not shop in Europe).
If you're in the EU, JRR shop is the cheapest.
If you're not, it's Best Service with the Halloween20 voucher (while it lasts).

Many thanks. I'm thinking about going for it then!

[Soman]

That very clever thinking but there is a tiny problem. You can only put one voucher-code at a time. And when you convert the voucher to money you have to insert the voucher-code and then you can't add the voucher €20 on top. The only way to do this is to buy 2 x €150 Voucher cards in two different purchases. Then contact Best Service and ask to get the two transferred to one code of €300 instead. The problem with this is that you won't get a refund. So you have to find something to add from the €180/200 up to the €300. I asked them a few weeks ago if you would get a refund for the rest. But you don't. If you only purchase for €200 you loose the €100 And that's not so smart.

Ow, okay... Well that's a pity. But thank you for heads-up! I knew there would be a catch in it.
Anyway, I haven't got an answer from UVI. As expected...because they have a lot of Email traffic from AES and the Falcon release. As I am German (like Bestservice is) and self-employed, I can get the VAT back with the tax , but I can't exclude it from the purchase sum. This would be ideal. But that's the tax system...
So I have three options:
1. Buying from Bestservice with halloween20 and get the vat back next year (cheapest option but I have to wait for the tax refund)
2. Buying from JRRShop or Audiodeluxe, Plugin Discounts or Plugin Boutique (cheapest for me, because I have earned some virtual cash there from previous purchases and I get some new virtual cash with this purchase) or Everyplugin.com (there are more but they all offer it for the same price) OR
3. Wait for a MachFive 3 crossgrade pricing from UVI (which may not be happening before the discount ends on November 9th if it happens at all)

*scratching my head*

Difficult decision.

AND there's one thing I haven't seen mentioned at all (Ok, I haven't read the whole thread, maybe this has been clarified before):
You get a $100 voucher for a UVI library with the purchase of Falcon.
As I already own lots of UVI libraries I don't think I need this voucher right now.
If I could sell it for less than $100 to another user here (anyone interested before I do the purchase? ) then I would get some bucks from the voucher back at least.
Does anyone have info about that?

[Cinebient]

That very clever thinking but there is a tiny problem. You can only put one voucher-code at a time. And when you convert the voucher to money you have to insert the voucher-code and then you can't add the voucher €20 on top. The only way to do this is to buy 2 x €150 Voucher cards in two different purchases. Then contact Best Service and ask to get the two transferred to one code of €300 instead. The problem with this is that you won't get a refund. So you have to find something to add from the €180/200 up to the €300. I asked them a few weeks ago if you would get a refund for the rest. But you don't. If you only purchase for €200 you loose the €100 And that's not so smart.

Ow, okay... Well that's a pity. But thank you for heads-up! I knew there would be a catch in it.
Anyway, I haven't got an answer from UVI. As expected...because they have a lot of Email traffic from AES and the Falcon release. As I am German (like Bestservice is) and self-employed, I can get the VAT back with the tax , but I can't exclude it from the purchase sum. This would be ideal. But that's the tax system...
So I have three options:
1. Buying from Bestservice with halloween20 and get the vat back next year (cheapest option but I have to wait for the tax refund)
2. Buying from JRRShop or Audiodeluxe, Plugin Discounts or Plugin Boutique (cheapest for me, because I have earned some virtual cash there from previous purchases and I get some new virtual cash with this purchase) or Everyplugin.com (there are more but they all offer it for the same price) OR
3. Wait for a MachFive 3 crossgrade pricing from UVI (which may not be happening before the discount ends on November 9th if it happens at all)

*scratching my head*

Difficult decision.

AND there's one thing I haven't seen mentioned at all (Ok, I haven't read the whole thread, maybe this has been clarified before):
You get a $100 voucher for a UVI library with the purchase of Falcon.
As I already own lots of UVI libraries I don't think I need this voucher right now.
If I could sell it for less than $100 to another user here (anyone interested before I do the purchase? ) then I would get some bucks from the voucher back at least.
Does anyone have info about that?

The voucher is non transferable!..... and valid 2 months.

[aMUSEd]

I have to pay VAT (in the U.K.) and all I see is 219 Euros after the discount. So I'm wondering if JRRShop will attempt to charge me VAT, on top of the $229 (£150) they are asking for Falcon.

I bought Falcon at JRR shop and wasn't charged VAT (they're American and have not shop in Europe).
If you're in the EU, JRR shop is the cheapest.
If you're not, it's Best Service with the Halloween20 voucher (while it lasts).

I thought even US shops had to charge VAT now to customers in the EU?

[Oberheim 8000]

Thanks Sampleconstruct, I know it from your first post, but I want be sure I am doing it right.

Another question about unisono with layer.
If i use unison on FM synth or Analog Stack synth or oscilators, I got hard sync phase effect. I got it with all oscilator but only analog and waveform osc can change to random. How I change random phase in FM and Analog Stack oscilator?

The Pan for unison with keygroups is only pan and do nothing with oscilators phase.

[otristan]

Thanks Sampleconstruct, I know it from your first post, but I want be sure I am doing it right.

Another question about unisono with layer.
If i use unison on FM synth or Analog Stack synth or oscilators, I got hard sync phase effect. I got it with all oscilator but only analog and waveform osc can change to random. How I change random phase in FM and Analog Stack oscilator?

The Pan for unison with keygroups is only pan and do nothing with oscilators phase.

For analog stack, you can just put a random modulation source on each phase knob of each oscillator.
For FM, there is no such parameter. Will see if this could be added at some point.

[woodsdenis]

I have to pay VAT (in the U.K.) and all I see is 219 Euros after the discount. So I'm wondering if JRRShop will attempt to charge me VAT, on top of the $229 (£150) they are asking for Falcon.

I bought Falcon at JRR shop and wasn't charged VAT (they're American and have not shop in Europe).
If you're in the EU, JRR shop is the cheapest.
If you're not, it's Best Service with the Halloween20 voucher (while it lasts).

I thought even US shops had to charge VAT now to customers in the EU?

Some do and some don't thankfully , JRR or Audiodeluxe don't ssssshhhhhh

It also loads MF2 patches !!!!

[Soman]

The voucher is non transferable!..... and valid 2 months.

Thank you! It was too good to be true anyway...

[Oberheim 8000]

Thanks Sampleconstruct, I know it from your first post, but I want be sure I am doing it right.

Another question about unisono with layer.
If i use unison on FM synth or Analog Stack synth or oscilators, I got hard sync phase effect. I got it with all oscilator but only analog and waveform osc can change to random. How I change random phase in FM and Analog Stack oscilator?

The Pan for unison with keygroups is only pan and do nothing with oscilators phase.

For analog stack, you can just put a random modulation source on each phase knob of each oscillator.
For FM, there is no such parameter. Will see if this could be added at some point.

Thanks. If i may design idea, it would be great if all oscilators will have all thre options for unison like Analog and Wavetable oscilators. Maybe same button, but under Oscilator panel - i make screenshot.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t1fh42kve7pfyww/PS.jpg?dl=0

EDIT: and forgot mention, more unsinon parameters are welcom like how voices are spread in detune. If this will be added + this random phase, it would be great.

[BlueFielder]

" Falcon includes two soundbanks :Falcon Factory.ufs, and Falcon Tutorial.ufs "

---- Anyone able to locate the ' Falcon Tutorial.ufs file' ?
OSX installer did not include it.

Also : Where are the REX 1.7 Library files installed that come in the Extras Folder ?
The installer gives no clue of where the files were installed.
And I could not find them with search.

[otristan]

Thing is, not all oscillator have a phase per se especially not all sample based one.
Analog stack is basically Analog oscillator but where you can tweak all voices differently, so it make less sense
to have a unison option here.
This could be useful for FM though

Please note that Unison in oscillator and layer unison do not the same thing as Oscillator unison
runs multiple time this oscillator while Layer unison will running all the voice topology multiple time including filter and all keygroup FX.

Hope this clarify things.