Reverberate 2.0 released

[billcarroll]

Thanks to @liquidsonics and @lachrymal for the sound examples. Impressive.

[liquidsonics]

Here are some more demos (forgive the quick and dirty playing... music by Torroba):

https://soundcloud.com/zhikago/dry?in=z ... verberate2

https://soundcloud.com/zhikago/m7-large ... verberate2

https://soundcloud.com/zhikago/m7-large ... verberate2

https://soundcloud.com/zhikago/dense-lo ... verberate2

https://soundcloud.com/zhikago/dense-lo ... verberate2

https://soundcloud.com/zhikago/darkenin ... verberate2

https://soundcloud.com/zhikago/darkenin ... verberate2

If you reverse polarity on two identical tracks with convolution reverb (w/out modulation) they should null.
Do the same with a Fusion IR and you can see why there's more liveliness:
https://soundcloud.com/zhikago/polarity ... verberate2

I've never used a Bricasti so I can't comment on the comparison, but as soon as I tested the beta of Rev2 I realized how static normal convo verbs are... Thumbs up.

Great demos, thanks for sharing

Glad you noticed that the Fusion-IRs do not null, just like many great algorithmic reverbs. After hearing this the first time it really emphasised to me too how standard convolution reverbs even with great IRs sound so lifeless and dead in the mix. Not every reverb needs to modulate, but a lot really benefit from it.

Beware - you're now one step closer to wanting to drop a lot of money at Bricasti's door!

[sin night]

Damn! I bought the first version because of some M7 impulses and now I'm considering the upgrade because of the M7 library... Fortunately the Bricasti is more expensive than what I can afford (and I could not justify such expense for an hobby, anyway).


I have a curiosity about the new FIR technology: will it be possible to make impulses of things like a BDD delay (with better results than classic static convolution, of course)? If so, how hard would it be to make one of these impulses?

[liquidsonics]

will it be possible to make impulses of things like a BDD delay (with better results than classic static convolution, of course)? If so, how hard would it be to make one of these impulses?

Sorry for my apparent ignorance, but could you expand that acronym for me?

[sinkmusic]

BBD = Bucket Brigade Device.
It's most of the echo/devices from early 80s (and also choruses, flangers, etc).
Think : Boss DM-2, Ibanez AD-202, but also the Roland Dimension D, etc.
It is the kind of delays which came after tape echo machines, and before digital units.

[liquidsonics]

BBD = Bucket Brigade Device.
It's most of the echo/devices from early 80s (and also choruses, flangers, etc).
Think : Boss DM-2, Ibanez AD-202, but also the Roland Dimension D, etc.
It is the kind of delays which came after tape echo machines, and before digital units.

I wouldn't predict Fusion-IR would give you the type of effect you actually want here. It wouldn't sound static, but I don't think it would sound good (the delays would not really blend together very well, you'd either get perceptible phasing or be able to hear the discretisation of it at different capture points). These kinds of devices are probably better off recreated using circuit modelling.

[sin night]

I was thinking about making IRs of a pure BBD delay, for example the MF-104M (with modulation turned off, of course). I tried once to make some IR with standard convolution, but I got poor results; so everytime there's a new convolution technology on the market, I wonder if I could get some ok results at this specific task.

Anyway it's not important, my curiosity was more about finding out if there are more applications than "standard" reverb than an actual need.
I guess I'll stick at using convolution reverbs for what they do best (reverb).


The FIR technology looks interesting; I think I'll give another listen to those examples through a proper set of monitor before upgrading, but I already heard enough differences through the laptop speakers, so I'm already sold on this.

[MFXxx]

Got hold of this last night and while I have yet to dig deeper, the surface of simple editing ie start/stop locations is good. Threw some older Wav and Wir impulses into and all seemed to working nicely
A few observations (unless I have missed as as not rtfm)
Tweaking the start stop, would like to be able to have a lower sensitivity with the mouse movement ie hold shift and mouse to improve tighter movements, particularly useful when tweaking the impulses.
I would like to see the load fxb banks at a higher position in the menu cascade. But not a big ball buster.
It does however prove very easy to make a mistake and wipe a preset so an option of "are you sure" would be nice.
I like the fact you can scroll through impulses in a directort for auditioning, great workflow.
I would like to see the plugin remember the last location for presets and impulses when loading again to speed up workflow as it always goes back to the same location regardless if you are looking for a fxb bank, preset or impulse (hope this makes sense).
The M7 impulses are really lush incidentally, although I still find myself reaching to B2 or Aether for more movement in the verb...however for impulse spaces, Reverberate hits the spot nicely thank you.

On a different topic I dived in and got the bundle, filtrate has already proved useful.
Would like to see some presets for inspiration and to get an idea of other possibilities

PS Your websites currently appears of line.

[Neuropath]

Hi Matt,

Congrats on what looks and sounds like a great update. 2 questions:

- Is there any discount for Reverberate Core owners?

- Can the Fu-IR process be used to capture natural spaces? Or is it just for electronic reverbs?

[Constructed Identity]

Sounds great, I wonder how much RAM these impulses use up...

[farjedi]

The fusion-IR technology really adds something above the standard convolution to my ear, directly comparing to samplicity's true stereo sampling of the M7, it sounds deeper, less splashy, and has a nicer tone. Inspecting in headphones reveals it somewhat sits with the sound it's effecting better, more a natural extension of the sound.

The ability to adjust the balance of ER and Tail makes this feel more like an algorithmic verb, and the M7 has some of the nicest ambiences I've heard in the box that add a dimension around the sound that doesn't sound metallic or distractingly artificial.

I've got Aether, Valhaller Vintage Verb and a few others, they are great but I never got a good feeling in small rooms, tight ambient spaces and the like. Never sounded like a real space. I guess it's a testament to how good the M7 is and how this new technology has captured it in greater detail.

I am really intrigued to hear what a real room would sound like captured with F-IR. Is there any in the larger library, as I only have downloaded the M7 so far?

Cheers

[liquidsonics]

Hi Matt,
- Is there any discount for Reverberate Core owners?

Yes, £20 off, visit: http://www.liquidsonics.com/software_re ... _users.php

- Can the Fu-IR process be used to capture natural spaces? Or is it just for electronic reverbs?

Maybe, but I suspect signal to noise would be a challenge, and really a static room isn't meant to modulate so probably it wouldn't make a lot of sense to do it.

[liquidsonics]

I've got Aether, Valhaller Vintage Verb and a few others, they are great but I never got a good feeling in small rooms, tight ambient spaces and the like. Never sounded like a real space. I guess it's a testament to how good the M7 is and how this new technology has captured it in greater detail.

I am really intrigued to hear what a real room would sound like captured with F-IR. Is there any in the larger library, as I only have downloaded the M7 so far?

Yes the M7's rooms really are amongst the best around so it's good to be able to recreate those more closely with the new Fusion-IR technology. As for real rooms, I don't think if you sampled a real room multiple times it would come out very much differently so wouldn't benefit - but of course this is something to experiment with in future. The strength of this approach is to replicate the synthetic but rather pleasing modulation algorithmic reverb tends to need to reduce resonances etc.

[sounddesigner]

Congradulations on the release of Reverberate 2.0! I will be now checking out the vst demo. All the audio demos I've heard thus far has sounded very good so I can't wait. Glad to see new approaches brought, again congradulations Matt!

[MFXxx]

I'm wondering if it's at all possible to capture firs from plugin reverbs, particularly as there should be zero noise in the path and how easy it would be to impliment. or would it simply not work or be worthwhile?
There's a great collection of firs included and the briscatis are a great inclusion. Just wondering what more there will be to the plugin? Don't get me wrong there's a lot to get started with and a lot to learn just exploring thoughts and possibilities.