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damargeo · Post by **damargeo** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:55 pm

I want to build a home studio with a mac...
I don't know that much but am a quick learner, I have £3500 budget.
I see peoples studios are rammed full of hardware racks but I'm not sure what I need.
I will build my own desk and I have a mac.
So lets say this is your budget, you have a desk, a mac and logic.
What would you buy next?

thank you

ere2learn · Post by **ere2learn** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:06 pm

Get a set of monitors,keyboard,Nektar P1 & Diva,done,

Woohoo I just saved you 2k

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:11 pm

damargeo wrote:I want to build a home studio with a mac...
I don't know that much but am a quick learner, I have £3500 budget.
I see peoples studios are rammed full of hardware racks but I'm not sure what I need.
I will build my own desk and I have a mac.
So lets say this is your budget, you have a desk, a mac and logic.
What would you buy next?

Don't want to sound mean, but if you need to ask that question, you better think over spending any money... i think the question you should ask yourself is "What do i want to do?". If it's not even clear, if you want to record something, work completely in the box, what type of music you aim for and so on, noone will be able to give a constructive answer.

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:13 pm

Acoustic treatment, monitors + sub, headphones, MIDI keyboard controller, that's it, than I would explore Logic long time before I would decide to buy anything more software vise.

damargeo · Post by **damargeo** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:15 pm

sorry i should have been more descriptive.
I make electronic music, I also have a roland juno 60... it's just every persons studio i see on the web I see lots of racks and outboard equipment, what would it usually consist of?

ere2learn · Post by **ere2learn** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:21 pm

I wouldn't spend that much starting out,make great music with logic and and the Juno and see where you are a year from now is my advice

damargeo · Post by **damargeo** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:29 pm

ere2learn wrote:I wouldn't spend that much starting out,make great music with logic and and the Juno and see where you are a year from now is my advice

Good advice.. maybe I should just treat myself to a Jupiter-4 or SH-2 then.
What do you have in your rack?

ere2learn · Post by **ere2learn** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:31 pm

Not 1 piece of analog,all in the box,but i would like a Juno & logic for Alchemy

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:35 pm

damargeo wrote:Good advice.. maybe I should just treat myself to a Jupiter-4 or SH-2 then.

Or Micro Brute and Ultranova, it's 2015, not 1985

damargeo · Post by **damargeo** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:35 pm

Zexila wrote:
damargeo wrote:Good advice.. maybe I should just treat myself to a Jupiter-4 or SH-2 then.
Or Micro Brute and Ultranova, it's 2015, not 1985

hahaha!! best comeback of 2015!!

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:42 pm

Anyways, is there any particular genre of electronic music you are into, that will make all this little easier?

ere2learn · Post by **ere2learn** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:43 pm

If your treating yourself go ahead,but that's a bit different from the original question of building a home studio to make music

damargeo · Post by **damargeo** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:04 pm

think of muse but only synth based is the best way to describe it... dark, but I need all the sounds very powerful, so I need to brush up on how to make the sounds thicker and harder, so I'm hoping logic has all the tools to do that... It's completely amateur what I will be doing, I don't really care for acoustics (i'm not doing anything to the room) it's just for the fun of making my own stuff (should have explained better at the first post) I just need to know if I could benefit better from outboard gear that will achieve a thicker harder sound (or ozone vst maybe??)

Zexila · Post by **Zexila** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:38 pm

damargeo wrote:I'm hoping logic has all the tools to do that...

It does actually

I don't really care for acoustics>thicker harder sound

So you do care about the sound actually, only way to achieve something great is to actually hear it, you can make fat sounding balanced mix using nothing other than Logic stock stuff, but on other hand you can render yourself unbalanced muddy sounding mess with boutique stuff too, it's all in ears, even if you don't know all the do's and dont's, ears can guide you, other way around, there's nothing to trust anymore.

I just need to know if I could benefit better from outboard gear that will achieve a thicker harder sound

Overall no, but hearing things properly will, even to appreciate nuances and differences if there are some, so no, don't invest in magic boxes until you can make good mixes using only Logic stock tools.

Don't buy outboard effects, synths are fun for tweaking even if they sound identical to software these days, so don't buy some too expensive stuff because of fat sound either, buy something you will love making music with.

BDeep · Post by **BDeep** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:05 pm

An audio/midi interface, a pair of monitors and headphones. Let's say that's half the budget, then maybe a controller (Nektar seems nice, or the new Akai ones), then spend the rest on software. Yes Logic can do everything, but I predict that sooner rather than later you'd want to buy some extra synths/effects.

A personal note, you don't -need- hardware. It doesn't sound that much better (if at all!) and it's much more limited than software. The main draw of hardware is that it in some form or way it may inspire you do to things you can't achieve in software. You already have the Juno, I'd start making music first before deciding whether you want other hardware, and which. That should give you a good clue on the limitations and virtues of hardware in daily use.

here is your budget...