UVI Falcon - v4 = 2026 released - rumors, ads, praise, kindergarden, auto-sampling and off-topic inside!

[thetechnobear]

@thetechnobear
Little thought experiment:
You can use pitch per midi channel, so that one axis is possible to sort via Lua as I understand it. Let's call it X.
You have Poly AT, which works right away as Y.
Since Polyphonic AT is per channel, you could in theory translate your Z to another channel of Poly AT somehow externally.
That would give you the ability to work with only two programs in Falcon, each with it's own Poly AT source (one of which is originally Timbre).
So you would not have all three expressions in both programs, but a separate Poly AT in each.
I would expect that you can do a lot with this already when layering things and it wouldn't need you to duplicate everything, the two programs could form one voice together.
I still don't have an MPE instrument, but would such a setup not work in many cases?

Hopefully Falcon will support full MPE and more per-voice modulations in the future...

Cheers,

Tom

please bare with me, as I don't have Falcon... Im pre-sales here, trying to work out if to buy before the 9th ... so I'm going on the manual, which is tricky for such a complex beast.

k... so what your saying is having two parts (=programs in Falcon?) which are layered one of which is modulating with one axis and the other the other axis (both using poly pressure as a modulator, and with different targets)
hmm...its an interesting idea... I've not experimented much with layer, but i think your right it would work, and create some interesting sounds.
this could be taken in an alternative 'direction' too, oliver mentioned volume could be modulated per voice directly by the script, this means you could use Y as a crossfade between the two layers.

MPE: yeah, Id love it to be MPE compliant... of at least support voice per channel i.e. to allow you to send each CC to each voice independently to be modulation source.... or do like bitwig, and as well as polyAT have a Poly Timbre...
perhaps in a future update



thanks @mdsp thats quite promising, its still leaving some cpu for the voices

[ThomasHelzle]

@thetechnobear
Little thought experiment:
You can use pitch per midi channel, so that one axis is possible to sort via Lua as I understand it. Let's call it X.
You have Poly AT, which works right away as Y.
Since Polyphonic AT is per channel, you could in theory translate your Z to another channel of Poly AT somehow externally.
That would give you the ability to work with only two programs in Falcon, each with it's own Poly AT source (one of which is originally Timbre).
So you would not have all three expressions in both programs, but a separate Poly AT in each.
I would expect that you can do a lot with this already when layering things and it wouldn't need you to duplicate everything, the two programs could form one voice together.
I still don't have an MPE instrument, but would such a setup not work in many cases?

Hopefully Falcon will support full MPE and more per-voice modulations in the future...

Cheers,

Tom

please bare with me, as I don't have Falcon... Im pre-sales here, trying to work out if to buy before the 9th ... so I'm going on the manual, which is tricky for such a complex beast.

k... so what your saying is having two parts (=programs in Falcon?) which are layered one of which is modulating with one axis and the other the other axis (both using poly pressure as a modulator, and with different targets)
hmm...its an interesting idea... I've not experimented much with layer, but i think your right it would work, and create some interesting sounds.
this could be taken in an alternative 'direction' too, oliver mentioned volume could be modulated per voice directly by the script, this means you could use Y as a crossfade between the two layers.


thanks @mdsp thats quite promising, its still leaving some cpu for the voices

Cool you like the idea

Yes, Falcon Programs are like instruments in Kontakt, basically independent entities with individual Midi in Channels (or Omni) and routable to multiple outputs.

If you didn't see them already, the video tutorials are very good - Dan is Ace.
More seem to be in the works.

And yeah, with blending between two programs with Timbre sent to an alternative Poly AT channel controlling their volume, you should be able to do some very interesting things.
Very cool idea actually for Timbre - having one bright version and one dark...
...or something much more elaborate...

Keep us posted if you should go in this direction - would be cool to build up a User-Lua-Script pool...
Anything like a user script library in the works dear UVI?

I'm busy with a complex 3D Job so I can't really dive into Lua just yet...

Cheers,

Tom

[audientronic]

For those of you who have MachFive 3, I have question about MOTU registration.

I bought MF3 last year as a crossgrade. Installed and authorized to ilok.

Now with this Falcon crossgrade, I went to the MOTU site and discovered that MF3 is not registered in my MOTU account (I don't own any other MOTU products). When I went to register it, I discovered that I was never issued a serial number (or at least I think I wasn't). I was only given the ilok auth code, and a separate code for the UVI FX library.

Is there a way to register this with MOTU? The website says to see the instructions given with the product. But there are no instructions (I have all original packaging and receipts). Can anyone help or at least point me in the right direction?

I haven't sent MOTU a ticket yet, but I will. Just thought I'd ask here first to make sure I didn't miss something very obvious.

Thanks
-B

There should've been pretty extensive instructions in the box. You have to contact MOTU at least by email or by phone and they will walk you through the registration process they will ask you to provide proof of your previous ownership of one of the cross grading products and proof of the purchase of the cross grade and then they will set you up with a serial number.

The "box" was just a folio with the discs and a card with the ilok auth. But you just made me realize why they wouldn't give a serial with the crossgrade. I was wondering how they checked up on crossgraded products. Now I know. But I swear there were no instructions.

I submit a ticket and take it from there.
thanks
-B

There was also a pre-addressed envelope. The idea was to have customers tear out the first page of the manual of the qualifying product, and mail it in the included addressed envelope to MOTU. But these days that's a little quaint, and you'd be hard pressed to find a printed manual of anything anymore(except in the MOTU box--no pdf for it either)--so they handle it by email. In any event, the folks in the office are very friendly either by phone or e-mail.

[otristan]

For MPE style, you can as well use the 127 CC on the 16 MIDI channel.
So you have technically 16 axes as each MIDI CC can be assigned to a unique MIDI key with 128 values.
So using this and falcon script you can modulate 4 different parameters : volume, pan, pitch and a bonus one using an encoded poly aftertouch.

4 polyphonic axes is already quite powerful imho
Not sure you can control that much in realtime

[Gribs]

Okay, so I just entered the world of iLok and Pace... well I am still waiting for Falcon to download.

I received a voucher from UVI already. Does anyone have a recommendation for a sound library that is < $200?

I watched the String Machines tutorials once when they were on sale, and it looks nice, but I have the Retro Machines library from Komplete and Xils V already so I would say it is of lower interest. I am also not interested in Mello, a sampled piano, or yet another beatbox library (I have enough).

What are peoples thoughts on the sampled Roland synths (I know the pair go on sale as a combo sometimes so maybe not now?), the Fairlight samples, and the vector synth bundle? How about the orchestral thing or the gongs (interesting tbh - weird and niche but interesting)?

[Gribs]

...and another question (sorry!)

Do you guys recommend downloading and installing UVI Workstation in addition to Falcon? Does it have DLLs that are required for the UVI library add-ons that enable them to run in Falcon?

[Musical Gym]

Might be helpful for developers like this to add Falcon to their compatibility list announcements...
Would help them and uvi.

[aMUSEd]

Does anyone have a recommendation for a sound library that is < $200?

Still not sure myself. I would really like something like Biosphere but there doesn't seem to be anything except for XTreme FX which I have (if you don't have that it's good).

[Gribs]

Does anyone have a recommendation for a sound library that is < $200?

Still not sure myself. I would really like something like Biosphere but there doesn't seem to be anything except for XTreme FX which I have (if you don't have that it's good).

I don't have anything at all from UVI, so I am listening through their soundcloud page. The effects thing might not be a bad choice if it has more percussive and noisy fills and is not too full of "cinematic" whooshes and risers.

[aMUSEd]

tbh what I'd really like is to use it on another Falcon library, I would have thought UVI would have had several lined up but apparently not.

[aMUSEd]

It would be good if it was possible to use the arrows in the dropdown menu for navigation of programs but that only seems possible for multis - except there don't seem to be any of those anyway. Why not for programs too? I don't really like having to click through sidebar menus much, particularly since you can't seem to use keyboard arrow keys either.

[SJ_Digriz]

It would be good if it was possible to use the arrows in the dropdown menu for navigation of programs but that only seems possible for multis - except there don't seem to be any of those anyway. Why not for programs too? I don't really like having to click through sidebar menus much, particularly since you can't seem to use keyboard arrow keys either.

I'm using the arrow keys in the sidebar .. enter opens/closes a folder

[aMUSEd]

They don't work properly in Logic X - I have to mouse on the browser to get focus and then I can move down one patch but as soon as I press enter it loses focus again so I have to mouse on the browser again to get it back which defeats the whole object.

[SJ_Digriz]

They don't work properly in Logic X - I have to mouse on the browser to get focus and then I can move down one patch but as soon as I press enter it loses focus again so I have to mouse on the browser again to get it back which defeats the whole object.

that does suck indeed. Win/Cubase works in a more useful manner.

[normanaj]

I'm very much aware of all the soft synths that are currently on the market but I have zero knowledge of their strength, weaknesses/limitations. I'd like to purchase a few synths but as few as possible to learn and cover all bases of sound design without any limits. If i buy this one, which looks and sounds extremely awesome, which others should look at to fill in any gaps?
Thanks in advance,