KVR Audio

dmbaer · Post by **dmbaer** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:25 pm

DarkStar wrote:Is it just me or is the Falcon User Manual difficult to read?

It's not just you. I'm finding the documentation to be fairly well-written, but white characters on dark background is not reader-friendly.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:27 pm

J0n35y wrote:I am so tempted by Falcon! Thing is, I have the chance to get my hands back on a, obviously more expensive, Yamaha FS1R. Very different sounds but some of the examples folks have shared over the past few pages are tickling my fancy!

Decisions, decisions..... (I hate GAS)

that's an easy decision. though maybe you should just choose Falcon and leave the FS1R to someone who would have no trouble in choosing it.

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:30 pm

Sampleconstruct wrote:Something more cosmic, a multi-granular soundscape using multi-sampled Kaleidoscope textures (sampled at different root notes), automating the 13 assigned Macros on the fly, tweaking granular parameters, filters in the FX rack and FX - 100% Falcon:

100% falcon ... ummm... except for the significant amount of it that's Kaleidoscope.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:35 pm

While playing with the Falcon factory preset called "Vick Celeste" (Bells category) i realized that the Analog Stack oscillator when set to Sine waves could be used as a simple additive sound source.
When using more than one stacked Osc module you could also use more than 8 "partials".

The additive oscillator in Synthmaster 2.7 works more or less similar (has 8 stacked waveforms/Oscs too) and could do more than just additive sounds (like in Falcon it could use other waveforms than Sine).
For example with both Falcon and Synthmaster this could be used to create detuned Supersaw/Hypersaw like sounds.

Of course the Organ oscillator in Falcon is a kind of additive oscillator too but with fixed tuning for the waveforms/partials.

In a future update of Falcon a simple additive oscillator would be nice, maybe implemented as a waveform editor in the wavetable Oscillator.

Sequent · Post by **Sequent** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:36 pm

TrekStar wrote:
Cinebient wrote:O.k. for evolving (and even playable) FX this thing is superb.
Here a short try. Just one or two notes playing at time....
Made this patch in a few minutes.
There more i play with it the more i like it. This thing wakes up my dark side for sure

https://soundcloud.com/cinebient/falcon ... k-fx-patch
this sounds fücking excellent, dude!

+1 to this.

J0n35y · Post by **J0n35y** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:46 pm

Daags wrote:
J0n35y wrote:I am so tempted by Falcon! Thing is, I have the chance to get my hands back on a, obviously more expensive, Yamaha FS1R. Very different sounds but some of the examples folks have shared over the past few pages are tickling my fancy!

Decisions, decisions..... (I hate GAS)

that's an easy decision. though maybe you should just choose Falcon and leave the FS1R to someone who would have no trouble in choosing it.

Or buy both and be a b@stard!

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:47 pm

J0n35y wrote:
Daags wrote:
J0n35y wrote:I am so tempted by Falcon! Thing is, I have the chance to get my hands back on a, obviously more expensive, Yamaha FS1R. Very different sounds but some of the examples folks have shared over the past few pages are tickling my fancy!

Decisions, decisions..... (I hate GAS)

that's an easy decision. though maybe you should just choose Falcon and leave the FS1R to someone who would have no trouble in choosing it.
Or buy both and be a b@stard!

that's the spirit!

pinki · Post by **pinki** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:04 pm

Sorry to quote myself but was hoping Otristran might comment....

pinki wrote:My number one feature request in Mach Five 3 was to be able to save Keygroups and indeed Layers separately. Sadly Falcon is the same.

I can save oscillator presets which is fine (does the granular save with the sample..can't seem to get that to happen?) but not being able to save keygroups is a bummer. (.nkg is the equivalent in Kontakt...)

For example: I have an oscillator set up with all its fx and trigger options...how do I use this in other Programs!?

I hope someone will call me a dunderhead and show me what to do but I can't figure it out.

Apart from this inherited MF3 restriction, Falcon is a wonderful MF3 successor. And no more dongle!!! I asked Motu many times to allow disk authorisation and they were not interested.

PS there is a workaround ....copying and pasting layers/keygroups between parts but SOOO cumbersome!

Daags · Post by **Daags** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:14 pm

it's cute to see all these feature requests. Unless UVI are already planning to implement these things, don't expect them to cater to your requests - no matter how useful and/or easy to implement they might be. They're very precious about their design philosophies.

pinki · Post by **pinki** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:24 pm

Not sure it's cute, whatever that means...just kinda necessary and not really that unusual.

How do you share groups that a user has made?

otristan · Post by **otristan** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:06 pm

pinki wrote:Sorry to quote myself but was hoping Otristran might comment....

pinki wrote:My number one feature request in Mach Five 3 was to be able to save Keygroups and indeed Layers separately. Sadly Falcon is the same.

I can save oscillator presets which is fine (does the granular save with the sample..can't seem to get that to happen?) but not being able to save keygroups is a bummer. (.nkg is the equivalent in Kontakt...)

For example: I have an oscillator set up with all its fx and trigger options...how do I use this in other Programs!?

I hope someone will call me a dunderhead and show me what to do but I can't figure it out.

Apart from this inherited MF3 restriction, Falcon is a wonderful MF3 successor. And no more dongle!!! I asked Motu many times to allow disk authorisation and they were not interested.

PS there is a workaround ....copying and pasting layers/keygroups between parts but SOOO cumbersome!

Honestly I never though that some people would love to save Keygroups. Will have to check this.
You can simulate a bit this by using the Load Program as Layers from the popup browser though.

PatchAdamz · Post by **PatchAdamz** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:20 pm

I am always on the lookout for synths that are capable of simply good pads.

Falcon does an excellent job of this.
I am finding, CPU usage is efficient enough to stack the layers high without to many issues.
A layered pad example:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... alog-stack

pinki · Post by **pinki** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:22 pm

otristan wrote:
pinki wrote:Sorry to quote myself but was hoping Otristran might comment....

pinki wrote:My number one feature request in Mach Five 3 was to be able to save Keygroups and indeed Layers separately. Sadly Falcon is the same.

I can save oscillator presets which is fine (does the granular save with the sample..can't seem to get that to happen?) but not being able to save keygroups is a bummer. (.nkg is the equivalent in Kontakt...)

For example: I have an oscillator set up with all its fx and trigger options...how do I use this in other Programs!?

I hope someone will call me a dunderhead and show me what to do but I can't figure it out.

Apart from this inherited MF3 restriction, Falcon is a wonderful MF3 successor. And no more dongle!!! I asked Motu many times to allow disk authorisation and they were not interested.

PS there is a workaround ....copying and pasting layers/keygroups between parts but SOOO cumbersome!
Honestly I never though that some people would love to save Keygroups. Will have to check this.
You can simulate a bit this by using the Load Program as Layers from the popup browser though.

Ah thanks for the reply. Yes load as layers might do it. Good shout.

You see I have loads of basic M5p 'Synths' that I have made in MF3...which consist of an oscillator and its associated envelopes and filters, maybe a bit of Drive or fx.
They are building blocks for sounds. I want to combine them with a sampler... for example to design an instrument.
In MF3 it was incredibly difficult...like I say, I ended creating a dummy Part and loading them in there and then cutting and pasting Keygroups from the M5p instruments.

I was so hoping this was addressed in Falcon. So if it could be looked at I would be happy. Thanks!

Musical Gym · Post by **Musical Gym** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:23 pm

Stand-alone immediately crashed after I set midi devices and clicked ok to recognize them.
Now it won't launch. When I view in task manager, Falcon.exe starts, runs, and then stops right away.
Does this require a computer restart to fix?
My virtual midi cable is recognized as a midi input in Falcon stand-alone.

otristan · Post by **otristan** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:26 pm

pinki wrote: Ah thanks for the reply. Yes load as layers might do it. Good shout.

You see I have loads of basic M5p 'Synths' that I have made in MF3...which consist of an oscillator and its associated envelopes and filters, maybe a bit of Drive or fx.
They are building blocks for sounds. I want to combine them with a sampler... for example to design an instrument.
In MF3 it was incredibly difficult...like I say, I ended creating a dummy Part and loading them in there and then cutting and pasting Keygroups from the M5p instruments.

I was so hoping this was addressed in Falcon. So if it could be looked at I would be happy. Thanks!

I suggest you to use layer in that case, this way, polyphony is handled automatically so you have always the whole sound.
A 16 polyphony on Program means that you can play 16 x N voices where N is the number of layers.

Plus two layer can be played mono while this won't be the case with two stacked Keygroups.

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