Amazing new way to conserve CPU usage of your effects plugins

[stardustmedia]

One thing I'm not sure about Agent: Does it also run instruments? Or only effects.

[nyrvsystems]

So you are happily stating that Nyrv is more efficient than Reaper when used in Reaper, this is going to be fun when their developers read this haha

I am saying 2 things and tonight Ill share the video. first, I'm not a reaper user and just downloaded the demo to run a test. second, that test showed AGENT saving a lot of CPU in the simple load them and let them sit test.

Since I am not a reaper user I may have missed some configuration there. As always I would love to see the test duplicated by anyone. we are always working to make AGENT a more effective and convenient platform.

One thing I'm not sure about Agent: Does it also run instruments? Or only effects.

AGENT can load a single vsti but we don't currently produce a vsti version. depending on your host though there are ways to run agent with an instrument and up to 15 effects loaded after it.

1) How does the saver Agent affect to the latency/latencies?

2) The video demo didn't present how easy/difficult the handling of the plugins are since those are loaded to the saver Agent? You have to click at least 2 more times to get making changes to the plugin settings, each time?

AGENT does not add any latency to the processing. We also have latency compensation and a manual override of latency.

This particular video is only showing loaded plugins for testing purposes. The full power of AGENT is in building a customized virtual control surface for all those plugins. check out some of the other videos to see some of that in action. Computer music magazine did a great demo of the free version of the software we provided them.

[Harry_HH]

But isnt there correlation between the CPU and the latency,or are the totally two separate parameters? If not, reduced CPU should help also decrease latency overload - you usually increase the latency to gain CPU.

Therefore your reply "no, the Agent doesnt INCREASE the latency" was a bit contradictory -?

If there's a mistake in the above deduction, please enlight.

[stardustmedia]

One thing I'm not sure about Agent: Does it also run instruments? Or only effects.

AGENT can load a single vsti but we don't currently produce a vsti version. depending on your host though there are ways to run agent with an instrument and up to 15 effects loaded after it.

I guess also no AU instrument version then. So in Logic I can use Agent only as effect, because the VSTi won't be able to receive MIDI because of Logic's restrictions (not yours).


Other question I couldn't get out of the manual. Are there also possiblities to include "logic" modules/routings, for instance:
- Route a signal to an effect only when a threshold is passed

[kohitsu]

Try this breakthrough new way to save CPU cycles, developed by a single mother. Scientists hate it!

[annode]

Just thinking out loud, i`m visualizing how I would decide whether I needed it;
- As I construct track after track in my project I add the typical VST to them.
- Later,I might eventually get to a point where enough VSTi and VST are inserted which bring me to my personal maximum CPU load.
- If when playing, at max CPU, the number of total VST exceed the greatest number which are processing audio. I might then have a need for AGENT supposing I want to add more VST.

[AC222]

Hi nyrvsystems,

We are obviously getting caught up in the minutia of the cpu savings, which others are calling into question but could you please answer my original questions? I think they are pretty straightforward.

1) Is it possible to switch between channels in your DAW within the plugin? For example, if you created custom channel strips for each track can you switch to a new track within the rack or do you have to manually go to the track in the DAW and then reopen the plugin for the new track you are going to?

2) Can you use this as a virtual mixer with mute/solo, fader functions?

Basically, I am wondering if it's possible to replace the mixer functionality of a DAW to consolidate everything in one place. I do have plugins that I can use for pan/gain but wonder if I could basically switch between tracks using the nryv system and do things like mute/solo multiple tracks from the plugin.

I am very interesting in this plugin.

AC

[nyrvsystems]

Hi nyrvsystems,

We are obviously getting caught up in the minutia of the cpu savings, which others are calling into question but could you please answer my original questions? I think they are pretty straightforward.

1) Is it possible to switch between channels in your DAW within the plugin? For example, if you created custom channel strips for each track can you switch to a new track within the rack or do you have to manually go to the track in the DAW and then reopen the plugin for the new track you are going to?

2) Can you use this as a virtual mixer with mute/solo, fader functions?

Basically, I am wondering if it's possible to replace the mixer functionality of a DAW to consolidate everything in one place. I do have plugins that I can use for pan/gain but wonder if I could basically switch between tracks using the nryv system and do things like mute/solo multiple tracks from the plugin.

I am very interesting in this plugin.

AC

So with the with the current and next release (1.3) you have access to Mix, Pan, and Fader for each agent. These are not however in a package that would allow you to bypass the DAW mixer at this stage.

With that stipulated however, we are working on a tablet app companion for AGENT which will allow for everything you are talking about. you will be able to monitor output levels from every agent, control the gain & pan for sure and possibly mute and solo. Expect to see first iterations of that update by March of 2016

[pottering]

AGENT can load a single vsti but we don't currently produce a vsti version. depending on your host though there are ways to run agent with an instrument and up to 15 effects loaded after it.

I had totally missed this somehow in the CM version, I thought it was effects only.

It can load MIDI effects as well, just tested putting Kirnu, Cthulhu and a synth in sequence.
Pretty cool, easier than IL Minihost and others that need to manually connect virtual cables.
It receives the MIDI in Live, at least (as long as there is no instrument before it), so no prob if it is not VSTi.

BTW, multi-out instruments don't seem to be supported, only stereo-out? Maybe it is a CM version restriction?

Anyhow, very nice product, I'll definitely use it more in the future.

[AC222]

Hi nyrvsystems,

We are obviously getting caught up in the minutia of the cpu savings, which others are calling into question but could you please answer my original questions? I think they are pretty straightforward.

1) Is it possible to switch between channels in your DAW within the plugin? For example, if you created custom channel strips for each track can you switch to a new track within the rack or do you have to manually go to the track in the DAW and then reopen the plugin for the new track you are going to?

2) Can you use this as a virtual mixer with mute/solo, fader functions?

Basically, I am wondering if it's possible to replace the mixer functionality of a DAW to consolidate everything in one place. I do have plugins that I can use for pan/gain but wonder if I could basically switch between tracks using the nryv system and do things like mute/solo multiple tracks from the plugin.

I am very interesting in this plugin.

AC

So with the with the current and next release (1.3) you have access to Mix, Pan, and Fader for each agent. These are not however in a package that would allow you to bypass the DAW mixer at this stage.

With that stipulated however, we are working on a tablet app companion for AGENT which will allow for everything you are talking about. you will be able to monitor output levels from every agent, control the gain & pan for sure and possibly mute and solo. Expect to see first iterations of that update by March of 2016

Thank you! If that can be done with mute and solo and all done on the same computer as the DAW you are working with, sign me up and I'll buy.

Being able to mix in the nyrv system without switching menus, guis, with the fully-customized parameters is a workflow dream that it sounds like could help in the box users surpass hardware users.

Hardware units still generally sound better than plugins so sometimes working with a real console is faster but this thing as a full mixer with Acustica Nebula would break all the boundaries and push efficiency to a new level

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[AC222]

AC222 I think you need to check out Blue cat MB-7 also.

Thanks Theo! Looks interesting. Though one of the things that appeals to me about the nryv system is that you can create a custom strip with specific parameters from different plugins you use and place them all in one space so it looks just like a custom built channels trip as opposed to a chain of different plugins.

[nyrvsystems]

AC222 I think you need to check out Blue cat MB-7 also.

Thanks Theo! Looks interesting. Though one of the things that appeals to me about the nryv system is that you can create a custom strip with specific parameters from different plugins you use and place them all in one space so it looks just like a custom built channels trip as opposed to a chain of different plugins.

thank you!

[AC222]

Haha. Thanks! By the way, the GUI is very pleasing on the eye and that's and I love the variety of knobs/themes etc. I was wondering if you had considered or might in the future consider adding vertical and horizontal sliders in addition to the rotary knobs as well? Just a thought...

[nyrvsystems]

oddly enough a vertical slider was created for the original design. The grid size just didnt lend itself to sliders in my opinion. the slider range was so small that I didnt like it. Might have been a mistake but it was my call. Thinking of having it make a comeback in v2 along with the ability to create multi grid section controls. So a slider that extends over more than 1 grid section.

we'll see...